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okay good evening ladies and gentlemen

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welcome to the June meeting of sofa I'm

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afraid we don't have the pleasure of

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Emlyn with us tonight he's apparently

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putting on makeup and ladies dresses

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again he tells me it's for a dress

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rehearsal freeze latest stage production

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but I don't know it all seems to be

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getting a little bit too frequent for my

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liking anyway you should show up about

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10-ish so keep an eye out for leftover

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lipstick on his face okay now if

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anyone's a palace sky watch shall

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certainly be a Kevin Bryn 9:00 p.m. the

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Saturday evening

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if you want to come down for a few hours

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you'll be made very welcome it'll be by

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King Arthur stone just done by there

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just a reminder there's a voluntary

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donation box at the back of the hall

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that's how we managed to bring you the

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guest speakers that we do so let's turn

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to tonight's event tonight I have the

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pleasure of introducing you to mr. Andy

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Thomas now I know that a few you already

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seen Andy at other venues and therefore

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you'll know what to expect for those of

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you who don't I'll tell you a little bit

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about our guest if I get it wrong I do

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apologize beforehand well where do we

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Andy is renowned around the world for us

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being one of Britain's most prolific

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authors and lecturers on unexplained

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mysteries conspiracies global cover-ups

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histories and British folklore those

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delivered literally thousands of

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lectures around the world including

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America Australia Brazil Peru Denmark

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and several European countries he's

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appeared on many television programs in

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court including GMTV the one show

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Richard and Judy I think now right isn't

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it yeah thank you

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and he's also the author of over a dozen

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best-selling books including the truth

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again

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the conspiracies and introduction to

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crop circles and vital signs which is a

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complete guide to the crop circle

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phenomena now there'll be some books

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that you can have a look at on the table

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to my left your right there in that

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intermission if you want have a look at

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those I think I'm right in saying that

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he himself has actually had a few

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strange visual experiences whilst being

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present in crop circles and he's also

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undergone a number of paranormal

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experiences so what he's going to talk

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about those tonight I don't know but if

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you want to have a chat with him in the

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break I'm sure you the light knew and

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he's the co emcee for the annual

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Glastonbury symposium at which I know a

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few of you have been in attendance in

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the past now I know there's quite a few

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people here know loved our part of the

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country as much as I do there's one

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sitting over there the conference covers

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such subjects as crop circles UFOs

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conspiracies metaphysics etc if anyone's

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interested go to this year's it's been

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held from Friday the 27th to Sunday the

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29th of July I think Gandhi you'll be

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doing the introductions there and he's

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actually talking himself on the Saturday

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I think it is isn't it yeah right so

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that hopefully that'll give you a little

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bit of an insight as to what you might

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expect tonight so without further ado as

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they say may I present you with mr. Andy

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oh well thank you very much for inviting

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me here I appreciate that

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now I understand and would imagine that

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you're fairly kind of all-knowing about

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many of these subjects already you've

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been running for a while and some of

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what I'm gonna do today will be familiar

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to you but what I hope to do is to give

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it a bit of a wider context and we're

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going to talk about all kinds of stuff

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and trying to see where it all joins

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together and one of the things that I do

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which I think he is perhaps not done

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enough is I tried desperately to get

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this kind of material out to the wider

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world and I'm lucky enough to be able to

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address all kinds of audiences who are

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generally skeptical because they are

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trained to be skeptical and that's one

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of the issues that we've got the

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mainstream media as most of you here

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know for instance is heavily biased

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against anything that is considered

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alternative and what I want to do as I

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threat my way through this is look at

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some of the evidence some of which you

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will know as I say some of which may

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also be new and see to a large degree

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how this has been treated culturally and

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perhaps to try to solidify why it is

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that we don't talk about it enough and

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it's interesting to see how all of that

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work so that's the essence of what we're

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doing tonight

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and the reason I'm beginning with the

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pyramids is just to make a simple point

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now we can be here all night and talk

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about ancient aliens and all of this and

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we'll do a bit of that later on but

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let's just take one very basic thing

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about the crop circles and the UFOs and

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the pyramids and all of these things

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right that we will be talking about and

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just sort of look at one aspect of them

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so here we see something that we're all

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told that we understand we know when

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pyramids were made we know why they were

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yeah of course there is so much we

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simply don't know but that's not the way

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that itself it's sold to us but it's all

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very easily explained and let's just

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take the hell never mind anything else

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that's how we were usually told that the

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pyramids were made we always see these a

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huge ramps gigantic masonry ramps going

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up to the tops of the pyramids and you

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see all these people hauling them up

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there now the issue around that is that

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of course therefore these ramps would

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have been almost as big as the pyramids

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themselves so you would have thought

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they would have left some kind of trace

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or at least some you know foundation

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mark that an infrared camera might pick

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up well no no actually if there's

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nothing but when they've looked around

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the pyramids with all kinds of scanning

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equipment there's nothing there's no

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trace of any such ramp so of course you

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know many people believe there are lost

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arts but even when engineers come along

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gentlemen like this man the

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award-winning engineer the the frenchman

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jean pierre who damn now even when he

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came along and questioned this theory

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about external ramps

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it didn't get treated very well and this

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is a really good illustration of how the

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mainstream treats anybody that comes out

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with something that appears to question

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the status quo so he has come up with a

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theory that a kind of a spiral ramp was

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built and they then built around the

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pyramids now there is actually more

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physical evidence to support that theory

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and it's only a theory yes but there's

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more evidence to support that than the

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external ramps theory and we're leaving

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levitation on all of that although many

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people of course believe that may well

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have been involved but now even this

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seemingly reasonable theory was not

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heard out so he has been treated as a

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heretic and a maverick and that word

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they like to reserve for anybody that

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comes up with this kind of stuff

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appear immediate which is it says it all

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doesn't it really that the fact that

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they can even have that term tells you a

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lot about the attitude so this is

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typical even reasonable alternative

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theories to mainstream stuff that they

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don't generally get heard out so we're

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always seeing a strange position of

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seeing this stuff get rejected and yet

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culturally we're really fascinated with

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this kind of stuff I mean take for

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instance the success of the x-files so

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x-files and probably have watch them a

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thousand times but it's funny isn't it

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this has been usually successful over

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the years but it seems that some people

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can be comfortable with this kind of

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material that he covers and yet in

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fiction they can be comfortable and yet

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not when it comes to considering that

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that might be going on in the real world

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and there have been a number of

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conspiracy theories of course over the

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years that the creator of the x-files

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Chris Carter might actually be trying to

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seed real ideas out there it's certainly

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got to be close to the bone on a few

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occasions in what is shown us so some

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say there is an agenda behind some of

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this stuff because they know that people

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can accept it through fiction when the

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court seemed to accept that it might

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really be going on around them and yet

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that said we'll see as we go through

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that there are some things that actually

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the general public is fairly dubious

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about but they don't necessarily have a

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context into which to you know into

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which they can express that so this is

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one of the issues that we've got so

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we're going to be looking in the way of

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some real x-files here and we'll come

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back to this briefly because we'll see

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later on how the x-files did manage to

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predict at least one thing which did

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then come true in the real world so

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here's something that would definitely

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be classified as an X file is there

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anybody here that's not seen this before

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we're not familiar with this okay as it

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says a few people have not seen it well

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let me introduce here to it this was in

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the news in 2009 it was widely reported

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even in the mainstream and yet

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astonishingly many people no longer

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remember it I think the reason they

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don't remember it is that they've been

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effectively programmed to forget it so

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what we're looking at here is a strange

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apparition over the skies of Norway and

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we know it's real because there are

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thousands of different images taken by

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lots of different people and if you go

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onto YouTube there are videos of it it

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spirals it then so there walks down into

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this very eerie black hole in the sky

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and then spirals out again it's Theory

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odd so this didn't make the mainstream

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news and yeah it's very strange you

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think we'd all remember that but most

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people don't remember it and no

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speculation was it atmospheric phenomena

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was it UFO phenomena was it a secret

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weapon being tested was it the HAARP

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project and so forth well then we were

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told what it was quietly you know in the

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way that they always do and they said oh

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that thing yeah don't worry about that

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that's just a Russian missile going

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wrong well okay let's have a look at a

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bit of film that they showed ironically

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of an American missile going wrong and

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so they said well there you go now all

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right this kind of spirally bit here

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maybe that could explain that but there

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is certainly no footage anywhere of a

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spiral going round around coming over

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the back of the missile of that

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perfectly and I mean if it was a Russian

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missile why didn't that trigger some

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major international incident I mean what

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today wouldn't it but in 2009 no people

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seemed it's very easy with that but also

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if it was a Russian missile how then do

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we explain this that in the years since

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several other spirals have been seen

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around the world the Gold Coast in

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Australia Mexico

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over the Middle East this is now a

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recurring phenomenon and what is I think

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a particular note is it's no longer

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mainstream news so the first spiral was

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mainstream news now no I mean yes you

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know the kind of place that we know we

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can go to find out about this sort of

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stuff you'll see them getting reported

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but in terms of now it being culturally

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acknowledged no it's gone

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and that's very typical of course of how

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a lot of this kind of stuff gets treated

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and of course that leads to accusations

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or cover-ups so you can explain mystery

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but it does look like it's now being

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covered up and nobody wants to discuss

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this publicly and we still don't know

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for sure what it is but many people do

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think it is related to the HAARP project

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and if you don't know what that is by

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now

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it's an American military project or

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began as such it's now been farmed out

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to more sort of civilian their companies

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but originally for it would seem at

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least they claimed military

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communications in theory it could also

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be used for weather control mind control

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and of course some people wonder that

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they're not using it to do stuff like

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this or some kind of experiment well we

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shall see this is very typical if the

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way that we treat stuff like this and as

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you heard at the beginning now I'm a

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little passion I've had over the years

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which is deeply unfashionable these days

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it is for the crop circle mystery and

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I'm in the crop circle mystery even in

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the realms of paranormal research

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doesn't get treated that well and the

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general view of course in the public eye

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is well it's all a big joke you know and

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they're all made by mainly bits of wood

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and guard rollers and NASA it basically

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but it's not it because you look at the

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evidence and there is simply no way that

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you can explain every crop circle that

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way I mean yes son no question some of

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manmade absolutely but are all man-made

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I mean remember you've got reports going

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back centuries

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you've got eye witness accounts of these

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appearing within seconds

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in front of people's eyes you've got

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light phenomena you've got exquisite

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geometry incredible mathematics embedded

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into them biological anomalies it would

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seem occurring in the plants and so on

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and they don't compare to the manmade

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formations when you look at the very

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best of them so there's there's a gray

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area still with crop circles near the

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general view is now it's all finished

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isn't it most people in the public I

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think it's all over well it isn't and

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indeed just to show you some from this

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year I mean these are some we've had

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just in the last few weeks and it's

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still going long so this is a phenomenon

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that the public thinks has ended well it

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hasn't and it's still very much alive

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and you know believe what you will about

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it but let's not misrepresent it the

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fact that most people don't even know

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it's going on is I think a very good

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example of how we push this stuff away

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and we do that with a lot of things and

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of course just on a basic factual level

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well it's a line and people are being

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fed a faucet so you know if you still a

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little bit in the middle about crops

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separate it's worth looking more into

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the evidence because in my view that

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cannot all be man-made and and you know

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the interest still goes on in at least

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some areas so look at some other mystery

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areas then because it's interesting to

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compare the way they're all treated so

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what about cryptozoology the study of

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strange creatures so you've got of

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course classics like bigfoot them the

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yeti which might look like that the yes

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he lives in the himalayas apparently

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Bigfoot lives in you know the North

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American mountains and I mean the

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traditional view to the famous film the

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Bigfoot is well it's a guy in a gorilla

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suit clearly but then you look at the

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evidence and there's much more to it and

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you know there are many sides is you've

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got the Sasquatch as well you've got all

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these related creatures that maybe one

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of the same species and again in the end

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you think well easy impossible that

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there could be some strange unusual

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maybe species of creature abroad in

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these places

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mean if we just look at the Yeti some

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quite well-known people have been

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looking for the Yeti and one of the

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people that's been on expeditions to

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find their which surprises a number of

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people II's the actor Brian Blessed

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Brian brushwood

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that Brian Blessed sobriety is somebody

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that takes this seriously now a few

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years ago I did the Esther Rantzen TV

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show if you remember that and there

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Brian was one of the other guests so

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we're quite long chat and in between the

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swear words had an interesting

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conversation and absolutely he is

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convinced the Yeti exists and of course

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over the years other people have been

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gathering things like first samples from

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claimed sightings and just in the last

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two or three years a lab in America has

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declared they do think the Yeti is real

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but the what it is is an unusual species

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of bribe blessing

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some people they he might be the Yeti no

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they believe it might be an unusual

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species of bear now probably a cross

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between a grizzly bear and a polar bear

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now okay if that's correct and you know

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of course there's still arguments around

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this all right it's not an alien but

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maybe there's something you know people

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are trying to get a context to something

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they're seeing and they've called it the

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Yeti well why not and I mean of course

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in terms of cryptozoology what about a

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strange creature a bit nearer well the

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good old alot Ness monster I mean you

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may have heard recently they're trying

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to take DNA samples from the water now

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to try to see if they can sieve out you

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know some species though we don't know

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about I mean here's one of the classic

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Loch Ness monster pictures which were

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always told is a known hoax photograph

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but on the other hand you will then meet

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people that will tell you the hoax story

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is the hoax so how do you know and

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there's some of you know already you

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know in these realms it's often very

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difficult to get to the bottom of what's

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going on here a token of getting to the

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bottom of things submarines of course

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have been down into the lock trying to

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find a creature

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this was taken in 1975 and again the

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cynics say well it's a bit of driftwood

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or something but others say well you

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know what that doesn't look quite a lot

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like a plesiosaur now I mean again we

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imagine plesiosaurs died out with the

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dinosaurs 65 million years or so ago but

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is the impulse of all the prehistoric

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species could have survived somewhere

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down there because it can't just be one

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monster I mean it's got to be an ongoing

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species well in my view it is possible

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and the reason is because we have things

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like this here is the coelacanth fish

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believed for years to be a species of

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fish that died out again with the

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dinosaurs all we had were fossils until

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in the last couple of decades or so

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they've started to find them swimming

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around and the coelacanth is alive and

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well and has barely changed in millions

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of years

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so can we rule out that there might be

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other species around which haven't

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changed much yeah I think they are there

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what makes sense to me and certainly

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cannot be ruled out but again trying to

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get this over in the mainstream is a

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very difficult thing even with blatant

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examples like this that show that there

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is a case to be made and I get a lot of

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talks and I meet a lot of people on one

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of the market there's two areas actually

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I hate constant right constant reports

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of one is UFOs which will come to the

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other is people have seen ghosts this is

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one of the most prevalent and explained

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mysteries in our society and yet again

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it's not treated seriously I mean here

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are some claimed classic ghost

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photographs I don't know if they're real

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or not but in more recent times of

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course you've got CCTV everywhere

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they're often being photographed on

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multiple cameras from different angles

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you got poltergeist activity being

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caught and you get to a point where you

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say this come all be fraud surely

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and when I put that together with the

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amount of people that I've met you know

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just reasonable qualified professional

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people who told me about the ghosts

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they've seen I would say there's around

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1 in 10 people who believe they've seen

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a ghost and that's a lot of people I

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mean ghost stories go back you know

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yawns as Roman ghost stories

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even the Bible refers to go see is

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something that's been in our psyche for

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a long time but we told these days

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though they're both young ghosts don't

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exist clearly they don't because and

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that's where it ends because yeah what

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and you won't get a good reason why they

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don't exist

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you'll just be told on the likes of

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Radio 4 that it's it's probably

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hallucination you know trick of the mind

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and the problem with that is hey that

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doesn't explain all the visual evidence

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and B what that doesn't explain is why

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very often many different people will

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report seeing the same ghost in the same

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place a completely different times

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never knowing that anybody else had ever

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seen them so that's not one thing in one

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person's mind I mean it can't be weather

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then these are spirits trapped between

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worlds as some people believe or is some

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strange crack in time replaying over and

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over or portals between dementia let's

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call it well you well we don't know but

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anybody that says ghosts don't exist

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without ever having looked at the

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evidence to me it's been foolish because

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it is absolutely clear it is a

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phenomenon wherever they come from and

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it's something that I think we should be

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treated more seriously but you don't

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necessarily need to be dead to find that

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your consciousness can exist outside of

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your body because another recurring

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phenomena is the out-of-body experience

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anybody here ever had one of these yep

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several well there you go

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is again more common than you might know

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because it's something which people are

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afraid to talk about a very personal

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thing but also they know they're gonna

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get ridicule

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it's absolutely clear this is now real

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phenomenon the projection of

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consciousness would seem to be possible

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00:23:03,239 --> 00:23:00,519
and often people are experiencing this

545
00:23:04,919 --> 00:23:03,249
either in sleep or under a general

546
00:23:06,570 --> 00:23:04,929
anaesthetic and they're having an

547
00:23:09,389 --> 00:23:06,580
operation and the line down there on the

548
00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:09,399
slab and suddenly it's as if basemap to

549
00:23:14,190 --> 00:23:12,190
wait but there could be a wake away

550
00:23:16,109 --> 00:23:14,200
because they're often there hovering up

551
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:16,119
there somewhere looking down on their

552
00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:18,129
body which is still lying down there on

553
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:20,950
the slab and many people have found that

554
00:23:24,299 --> 00:23:22,809
they can waft around and go through

555
00:23:26,430 --> 00:23:24,309
walls and go and have a look in other

556
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:26,440
rooms and then they finally come back

557
00:23:30,509 --> 00:23:28,330
into their body and when they come to

558
00:23:32,639 --> 00:23:30,519
they're telling doctors and nurses about

559
00:23:34,469 --> 00:23:32,649
things that they couldn't have ever seen

560
00:23:36,269 --> 00:23:34,479
from lying down there in the slap the

561
00:23:37,889 --> 00:23:36,279
describing saying things in other parts

562
00:23:40,649 --> 00:23:37,899
of the hospital that they couldn't have

563
00:23:42,529 --> 00:23:40,659
ever got to and some hospitals are now

564
00:23:46,259 --> 00:23:42,539
treating this seriously as a study in

565
00:23:48,389 --> 00:23:46,269
Southampton hospital for instance so it

566
00:23:50,729 --> 00:23:48,399
is such a recurring phenomenon now that

567
00:23:53,159 --> 00:23:50,739
we need to understand this but it does

568
00:23:55,289 --> 00:23:53,169
look like our minds and our physicality

569
00:23:57,930 --> 00:23:55,299
are not necessarily one of the same

570
00:24:00,269 --> 00:23:57,940
thing and I mean of course over the

571
00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:00,279
years there have been many studies made

572
00:24:05,099 --> 00:24:03,190
into psychic phenomena of all kinds and

573
00:24:07,709 --> 00:24:05,109
I think you could call that a kind of

574
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:07,719
psychic phenomenon and it's pretty clear

575
00:24:10,979 --> 00:24:09,129
if you look at what the likes of the

576
00:24:12,989 --> 00:24:10,989
Russian military and the American

577
00:24:15,690 --> 00:24:12,999
military have done just to give you two

578
00:24:18,479 --> 00:24:15,700
examples they know there is a phenomenon

579
00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:18,489
here except of course they're probably

580
00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:20,289
trying to use it for their own dubious

581
00:24:26,399 --> 00:24:23,769
ends so they won't shout too much about

582
00:24:28,589 --> 00:24:26,409
any positive results but there are lots

583
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:28,599
of other more public positive results

584
00:24:34,789 --> 00:24:32,710
you can cite for several years these two

585
00:24:37,769 --> 00:24:34,799
gentlemen Robert John and Dean Radin

586
00:24:40,979 --> 00:24:37,779
professors at Princeton University did a

587
00:24:43,469 --> 00:24:40,989
whole series a series of experiments to

588
00:24:44,999 --> 00:24:43,479
try to put a psychic phenomena of all

589
00:24:48,959 --> 00:24:45,009
kinds to the test everything from

590
00:24:51,810 --> 00:24:48,969
telepathy telekinesis and in the end

591
00:24:55,649 --> 00:24:51,820
when they did amateur analysis as you

592
00:24:57,299 --> 00:24:55,659
call it of all the results and they were

593
00:24:59,279 --> 00:24:57,309
you know sure at all what they would

594
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:59,289
come up with but in the end they had to

595
00:25:03,249 --> 00:25:00,320
conclude the

596
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:03,259
they had so many positive results that

597
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:06,080
the odds of those positive results just

598
00:25:13,330 --> 00:25:09,289
being chance were an incredible 35

599
00:25:14,830 --> 00:25:13,340
trillion to one against Marren if that

600
00:25:18,249 --> 00:25:14,840
was a 1 million to one

601
00:25:22,389 --> 00:25:18,259
or I'd be impressive 35 trillion is an

602
00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:22,399
almost unimaginable number and yet based

603
00:25:26,649 --> 00:25:24,620
on that you say well why don't we all

604
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:26,659
walk round going we're all psychic and

605
00:25:31,690 --> 00:25:29,210
you turn on the tallien is today is

606
00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:31,700
psychic news and it's all normal but

607
00:25:37,450 --> 00:25:34,070
it's not like they said no because we're

608
00:25:39,249 --> 00:25:37,460
in hideous denial about this side of us

609
00:25:41,230 --> 00:25:39,259
in the way that we're in denial of so

610
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:41,240
much other so-called paranormal

611
00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:43,610
phenomena and one of the reasons though

612
00:25:47,850 --> 00:25:45,620
we don't hear from people like this is

613
00:25:50,499 --> 00:25:47,860
instead we hear from people like this

614
00:25:53,139 --> 00:25:50,509
people like Richard Dawkins Brian Cox

615
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:53,149
rubber Winston and Professor Chris

616
00:25:58,269 --> 00:25:55,970
French the arch skeptic is a nice chap

617
00:26:00,490 --> 00:25:58,279
but always on the news basically saying

618
00:26:03,460 --> 00:26:00,500
no there's no reality to any of this

619
00:26:05,409 --> 00:26:03,470
alleged paranormal stuff and we have a

620
00:26:06,610 --> 00:26:05,419
problem here because these types of

621
00:26:09,340 --> 00:26:06,620
people and there are others we could

622
00:26:12,940 --> 00:26:09,350
mention have enormous influence over the

623
00:26:14,649 --> 00:26:12,950
medium and you know people are Dawkins

624
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:14,659
and Cox they don't believe in the spirit

625
00:26:18,490 --> 00:26:16,370
they don't believe in ghosts they don't

626
00:26:20,850 --> 00:26:18,500
believe in anything that is not

627
00:26:23,619 --> 00:26:20,860
immediately in front of their eyes and

628
00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:23,629
scientifically verifiable but the

629
00:26:27,940 --> 00:26:25,220
problem is they don't really apply this

630
00:26:29,860 --> 00:26:27,950
sighs properly to look at these things

631
00:26:31,810 --> 00:26:29,870
they just assume there's nothing to it

632
00:26:34,889 --> 00:26:31,820
and so they don't get investigated and

633
00:26:37,389 --> 00:26:34,899
yet when real science like the Princeton

634
00:26:39,460 --> 00:26:37,399
University science comes forward they

635
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:39,470
don't want to know they dismiss those

636
00:26:43,990 --> 00:26:41,690
people as mavericks and that's a problem

637
00:26:46,419 --> 00:26:44,000
in the world of scientism as soon as

638
00:26:48,340 --> 00:26:46,429
somebody starts to study something that

639
00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:48,350
the likes of these people believe is not

640
00:26:53,409 --> 00:26:50,840
credible that's it they are considered

641
00:26:55,779 --> 00:26:53,419
no longer scientists and so you can say

642
00:26:57,310 --> 00:26:55,789
there is no scientific evidence for this

643
00:26:58,869 --> 00:26:57,320
or that because you've just declared

644
00:27:02,230 --> 00:26:58,879
those over there are no longer

645
00:27:05,019 --> 00:27:02,240
scientists it's very wrong and it's very

646
00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,029
unfair and it's creating a completely

647
00:27:09,730 --> 00:27:08,000
full view of the reality that we're

648
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:09,740
living and then yeah most people in

649
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:11,929
mainstream say this they don't see the

650
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,559
guys are in

651
00:27:16,690 --> 00:27:14,240
in university and I'm just using them as

652
00:27:17,999 --> 00:27:16,700
but one example and let me show you how

653
00:27:20,830 --> 00:27:18,009
this works in practice

654
00:27:23,430 --> 00:27:20,840
Europe remember they found their rich at

655
00:27:27,789 --> 00:27:23,440
the Third's body two or three years ago

656
00:27:29,649 --> 00:27:27,799
under a car park in Leicester so here on

657
00:27:31,419 --> 00:27:29,659
the left is the lady who was

658
00:27:34,509 --> 00:27:31,429
instrumental in finding Richard that

659
00:27:36,340 --> 00:27:34,519
third Philippa Langley and when you

660
00:27:38,019 --> 00:27:36,350
watch the original television programs

661
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:38,029
about the discovery of Richard the third

662
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:39,919
you will see a lot of Philippa Langley

663
00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:42,710
though she is chatting away and telling

664
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:45,830
you very openly about what it was that

665
00:27:50,499 --> 00:27:48,559
led her to know exactly where the body

666
00:27:53,649 --> 00:27:50,509
was oh yes there were clues to the

667
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:53,659
general area that's true but she says in

668
00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:56,210
those original programs what led her to

669
00:28:02,889 --> 00:27:59,210
the exact spot in the car park was that

670
00:28:06,489 --> 00:28:02,899
she had a psychic intuition she was led

671
00:28:09,159 --> 00:28:06,499
there by some feeling and of course that

672
00:28:10,779 --> 00:28:09,169
is all very embarrassing to all the

673
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:10,789
scientists in the white coats that want

674
00:28:15,249 --> 00:28:13,129
to talk about the bones and now you look

675
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:15,259
at the modern programs made about the

676
00:28:18,999 --> 00:28:16,970
discovery of the body of Richard the

677
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:19,009
third and guess what poor old Philip is

678
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:21,200
hardly in it she's absolutely been

679
00:28:25,629 --> 00:28:22,850
pushed to the bag you don't hear about

680
00:28:27,759 --> 00:28:25,639
the psychic intuition now she's been

681
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:27,769
written out of history and that is very

682
00:28:33,340 --> 00:28:30,529
typical of the way it gets dealt with

683
00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:33,350
that doesn't fit the scientism view so

684
00:28:38,499 --> 00:28:36,080
it doesn't get reported and I mean what

685
00:28:40,419 --> 00:28:38,509
I find ironic here is that I mean when

686
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:40,429
the world of academia is proved to be

687
00:28:45,789 --> 00:28:43,730
wrong it never apologizes it's very

688
00:28:47,049 --> 00:28:45,799
critical of everybody else but when they

689
00:28:49,659 --> 00:28:47,059
get something wrong there's no

690
00:28:52,210 --> 00:28:49,669
correction or apology for example the

691
00:28:53,769 --> 00:28:52,220
way Richard the third looked when they

692
00:28:55,989 --> 00:28:53,779
got the skull they said right we're

693
00:28:58,119 --> 00:28:55,999
gonna reconstruct it but we must warn

694
00:29:01,509 --> 00:28:58,129
you that he will look nothing like the

695
00:29:04,330 --> 00:29:01,519
old Tudor pictures bletchley look why

696
00:29:06,009 --> 00:29:04,340
not buy the old truth pictures but then

697
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:06,019
they move on nobody corrects they don't

698
00:29:09,549 --> 00:29:07,730
say oh my god we were wrong though just

699
00:29:13,450 --> 00:29:09,559
they pretend they never said what they

700
00:29:15,730 --> 00:29:13,460
said so many people believe that they're

701
00:29:18,489 --> 00:29:15,740
a whole store is just being literally

702
00:29:20,590 --> 00:29:18,499
removed from our sight on a daily basis

703
00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:20,600
as we've seen where the spy rose in the

704
00:29:26,330 --> 00:29:24,030
sky crop circles and to a degree UFOs

705
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:26,340
yes it occasionally appears in the press

706
00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:28,410
but not to the degree that it should

707
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:31,740
given how much of it is going on so the

708
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:33,840
problem with that is it starts to lead

709
00:29:40,010 --> 00:29:37,110
you into the world of cover-ups and

710
00:29:43,670 --> 00:29:40,020
conspiracy theories because you're left

711
00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:43,680
with no choice and some people say well

712
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:45,750
you know that's very paranoid isn't it I

713
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:47,310
mean how can you prove there's a

714
00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:49,650
cover-up well you don't really need me

715
00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:51,240
to go through this but I'll just whisk

716
00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:53,070
through this briefly because I do think

717
00:29:57,670 --> 00:29:54,630
one area you can absolutely prove

718
00:30:01,160 --> 00:29:57,680
cover-ups going on it's the area of UFOs

719
00:30:03,710 --> 00:30:01,170
so you know the UFOs have been you know

720
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:03,720
in the news since at least the 1940s

721
00:30:08,450 --> 00:30:07,170
Roswell and all of that and culturally

722
00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:08,460
it's funny isn't it most people have

723
00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:10,020
heard of Roswell

724
00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:11,880
ask them what it's all about and they

725
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:13,980
won't always remember but their name

726
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:17,310
Roswell is Albert and should anybody new

727
00:30:23,390 --> 00:30:20,010
be here tonight you don't know this is

728
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:23,400
of course where in 1947 it was reported

729
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:24,960
that a place called Roswell in New

730
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:27,600
Mexico that a flying saucer had been

731
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:30,690
found crashed into the desert dry alien

732
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:32,910
bodies were lying nearby of course the

733
00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:34,650
military held a press conference and

734
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:35,940
said it was a weather balloon there's

735
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:38,490
famous made you just seen Marcel but of

736
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:41,010
course when Marcel then retired he

737
00:30:44,530 --> 00:30:43,170
completely turned the story around and

738
00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:44,540
said no I believe it was

739
00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:46,860
extraterrestrial and the Roswell

740
00:30:50,690 --> 00:30:48,600
whistleblowers have said the same thing

741
00:30:52,910 --> 00:30:50,700
and getting to the bottom arose well as

742
00:30:55,970 --> 00:30:52,920
most of you here know as well as anybody

743
00:30:57,890 --> 00:30:55,980
is now very hard but you know clearly it

744
00:30:59,480 --> 00:30:57,900
was more than a weather balloon I mean

745
00:31:01,790 --> 00:30:59,490
the weather blew never explained the

746
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:01,800
claims of the alien bodies anyway which

747
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:04,710
we have doctors nurses on record as

748
00:31:10,220 --> 00:31:07,440
claiming they saw this bodies and only

749
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:10,230
about 25-30 years ago the US military

750
00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:12,330
then tried to explain that they're

751
00:31:16,490 --> 00:31:13,860
saying well they were just crash test

752
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:16,500
dummies well you like to hope that you

753
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:18,330
nurses can tell the difference between

754
00:31:22,220 --> 00:31:20,000
bodies in crash tests I've never

755
00:31:24,530 --> 00:31:22,230
apparently not if I've understood that

756
00:31:25,970 --> 00:31:24,540
right so the rosewater phenomena goes on

757
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:25,980
but the point I'm making here is it's

758
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:28,050
still in the public consciousness even

759
00:31:31,820 --> 00:31:29,250
though you're not meant to take it

760
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:31,830
seriously and most people today have

761
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:32,450
heard of it

762
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:35,360
area 51 there's an aerial shot of it you

763
00:31:41,130 --> 00:31:38,410
know the military test zone in Nevada

764
00:31:43,390 --> 00:31:41,140
many people say they've got

765
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:43,400
extraterrestrial technology and hangars

766
00:31:47,130 --> 00:31:45,200
under the ground they're trying to copy

767
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:47,140
it to create modern military technology

768
00:31:51,790 --> 00:31:49,610
you can say that to people and most

769
00:31:54,130 --> 00:31:51,800
people have kind of grasp that that is a

770
00:31:55,870 --> 00:31:54,140
kind of athenaeus have belief even if

771
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:55,880
they don't believe it themselves so you

772
00:32:01,060 --> 00:31:58,610
know the UFO phenomenon is very much out

773
00:32:05,380 --> 00:32:01,070
there in the collective psyche but still

774
00:32:07,390 --> 00:32:05,390
were in massive denial so ghost is one

775
00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:07,400
thing I keep coming across people come

776
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:08,900
up to me and share the ghost stories

777
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:10,490
because they know I'm not going to

778
00:32:15,220 --> 00:32:12,890
really cure them UFO sightings is the

779
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:15,230
other one I mean so many people you know

780
00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:17,330
this there's so many people that

781
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:19,580
wouldn't normally talk about it see UFOs

782
00:32:24,750 --> 00:32:21,710
and whether you want to argue they're

783
00:32:27,010 --> 00:32:24,760
alien military hybrid whatever they are

784
00:32:28,570 --> 00:32:27,020
there's something clearly flying around

785
00:32:30,190 --> 00:32:28,580
and there's no question about that

786
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:30,200
but most of the people that speak to

787
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:32,410
mean by the way many of them are pilots

788
00:32:37,660 --> 00:32:35,450
military commercial you know sensible

789
00:32:39,970 --> 00:32:37,670
people it's always the same thing yeah I

790
00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:39,980
don't need the hassle or I don't want

791
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:41,870
the ridicule or I thought somebody would

792
00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:44,000
laugh for me and that's how clever we've

793
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:46,100
been in our society we've encouraged the

794
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:48,290
world to laugh at it and then that's

795
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:50,210
Moses found conversations because then

796
00:32:54,490 --> 00:32:52,010
people are very afraid of coming forward

797
00:32:57,850 --> 00:32:54,500
and again then you get this false view

798
00:33:00,460 --> 00:32:57,860
of the world and when you apply what in

799
00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:00,470
my book I called the truth agenda you

800
00:33:04,060 --> 00:33:02,390
start to look at what stacks up as

801
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:04,070
evidence and what doesn't you realize

802
00:33:09,250 --> 00:33:06,410
the truth is here there is something

803
00:33:10,690 --> 00:33:09,260
going on the freedom of information that

804
00:33:11,980 --> 00:33:10,700
doesn't get you anywhere because of

805
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:11,990
course even if they do release a

806
00:33:17,770 --> 00:33:15,890
document that's what you can't and so we

807
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:17,780
have to turn to civilian testimony of

808
00:33:23,260 --> 00:33:20,450
which there is of course a lot and you

809
00:33:26,620 --> 00:33:23,270
know I mean it's endless every year more

810
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:26,630
claims and I mean I mean I did find

811
00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:29,090
interest in the late john mack who of

812
00:33:34,810 --> 00:33:32,150
course was a professor at harvard i mean

813
00:33:36,910 --> 00:33:34,820
he tried to do a study into alien

814
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:36,920
abduction and the people who claimed to

815
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:39,770
man these beings when he was a Harvard

816
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:42,410
and he took a lot of flack for doing it

817
00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:45,170
and indeed he began just out of interest

818
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:47,660
really to see what's this all about even

819
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:49,970
just as a psychological phenomenon but

820
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:51,770
you know after putting people through

821
00:33:56,770 --> 00:33:54,770
hypnotic regression and psychological

822
00:33:59,170 --> 00:33:56,780
analysis he had to conclude at the other

823
00:34:01,150 --> 00:33:59,180
end of it that most of the people he

824
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:01,160
interviewed he believed that they

825
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:03,770
believed it they weren't just fantasies

826
00:34:07,660 --> 00:34:05,210
they weren't having a laugh that they

827
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:07,670
personally truly believed in it and so

828
00:34:11,770 --> 00:34:09,770
of course he crossed to the other side

829
00:34:13,630 --> 00:34:11,780
but by god the flack I mean he nearly

830
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:13,640
got thrown out of Harvard for doing that

831
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:15,440
and that's the problem the minute

832
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:17,330
somebody even dares to study something

833
00:34:22,090 --> 00:34:19,970
like this no they've put themselves out

834
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:22,100
on a limb and a mainstream no longer

835
00:34:27,820 --> 00:34:23,450
will acknowledge them and I think that's

836
00:34:29,770 --> 00:34:27,830
stupid very very small minded but I want

837
00:34:31,780 --> 00:34:29,780
to kind of take this talk on to a

838
00:34:33,490 --> 00:34:31,790
slightly different level here so what

839
00:34:35,610 --> 00:34:33,500
I've done here is just kind of plow

840
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:35,620
through a few famous mysteries but

841
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:38,090
there's another element that comes out

842
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:39,650
of this and some of you will be familiar

843
00:34:45,010 --> 00:34:42,050
with this already I mean there are

844
00:34:47,620 --> 00:34:45,020
recurring phenomena with this of like

845
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:47,630
operations and implants and strange

846
00:34:51,370 --> 00:34:49,730
things but the other recurring phenomena

847
00:34:53,950 --> 00:34:51,380
that I don't things talked about enough

848
00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:53,960
is when these beings whatever they may

849
00:34:58,030 --> 00:34:54,580
be

850
00:34:59,290 --> 00:34:58,040
give prophecies to people so you know

851
00:35:01,360 --> 00:34:59,300
there are many people over the years

852
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:01,370
people like you know witty streamer and

853
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:03,050
John King they've been told that these

854
00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:05,570
beams gave them prophecies of things

855
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:07,520
that would happen in in our world and

856
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:09,410
they've watched some of them come true

857
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:11,510
and again and again over the years of

858
00:35:16,270 --> 00:35:13,250
the last few decades there's been this

859
00:35:18,610 --> 00:35:16,280
recurring theme of change that our world

860
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:18,620
where we are now is about to go through

861
00:35:24,190 --> 00:35:21,920
change and upheaval and transformation

862
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:24,200
which of course ties in with a lot of

863
00:35:29,110 --> 00:35:26,450
other stuff so the element of prophecy I

864
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:29,120
think's been underdone in the UFO world

865
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:30,530
and what I have a little look at this

866
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:32,810
because this is something that might go

867
00:35:38,350 --> 00:35:34,310
back a little bit earlier than you might

868
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:38,360
know one of the famous mysteries of the

869
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:40,310
early 20th century that I've always been

870
00:35:47,530 --> 00:35:43,910
fascinated by is the Fatima apparitions

871
00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:47,540
so if you're not aware of this Fatima is

872
00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:50,390
village in Portugal and these three

873
00:35:55,850 --> 00:35:53,550
Shepherd children claim in 1917

874
00:35:58,700 --> 00:35:55,860
that they make festival an angel and

875
00:36:02,540 --> 00:35:58,710
then a glowing female being that they

876
00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:02,550
believed to be the Virgin Mary and this

877
00:36:07,220 --> 00:36:04,070
being started to give them information

878
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:07,230
that they were asked to pass on to the

879
00:36:11,930 --> 00:36:10,050
church authorities at the time and the

880
00:36:14,570 --> 00:36:11,940
first bit of information was the

881
00:36:16,460 --> 00:36:14,580
prediction of a second world war this of

882
00:36:19,130 --> 00:36:16,470
course was during the first world that

883
00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:19,140
came true the second was a prediction of

884
00:36:23,420 --> 00:36:21,120
a cold war and the rise of communism

885
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:23,430
which of course also occurred and the

886
00:36:27,890 --> 00:36:24,510
third secret

887
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:27,900
well that was kept very quiet for many

888
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:30,810
years by the Vatican and yet Vatican

889
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:33,930
officials like Cardinal Ratzinger who

890
00:36:39,860 --> 00:36:36,540
would go on to become pope benedict xvi

891
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,870
he dropped very heavy hints the third

892
00:36:44,450 --> 00:36:42,000
secret was all about big changes and

893
00:36:47,450 --> 00:36:44,460
stuff all due to occur cleaned up now in

894
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:47,460
our lifetimes here today but when he

895
00:36:50,930 --> 00:36:49,680
became Pope he then shut up I wouldn't

896
00:36:54,380 --> 00:36:50,940
say anything more about it

897
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,390
and I think religious agendas again if

898
00:36:58,340 --> 00:36:56,400
you're gonna look at global cover-ups I

899
00:37:00,470 --> 00:36:58,350
think there are more things to say about

900
00:37:02,330 --> 00:37:00,480
religious agendas then currently get

901
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:02,340
talked about understand a little bit

902
00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:03,690
more about that in a minute

903
00:37:08,570 --> 00:37:06,390
but you could say okay yeah but on the

904
00:37:09,350 --> 00:37:08,580
other hand surely they just made this up

905
00:37:12,590 --> 00:37:09,360
they were kids

906
00:37:14,420 --> 00:37:12,600
obviously invented it well the reason I

907
00:37:17,060 --> 00:37:14,430
don't think that that's true is because

908
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:17,070
there are thousands of accounts of what

909
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:20,310
was called the miracle of the Sun now if

910
00:37:24,980 --> 00:37:22,770
you go to Fatima today there is a side

911
00:37:26,530 --> 00:37:24,990
chapel and they don't shout about this

912
00:37:30,110 --> 00:37:26,540
window but there's a window there

913
00:37:31,790 --> 00:37:30,120
commemorating the miracle of the Sun so

914
00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:31,800
this is where the children asked this

915
00:37:36,110 --> 00:37:34,440
being for a sign because reasonably they

916
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:36,120
were worried nobody would listen to them

917
00:37:40,730 --> 00:37:38,130
and the being said yeah fair enough well

918
00:37:43,630 --> 00:37:40,740
bring lots of people here at this time

919
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:43,640
on this date which was 13th of October

920
00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:47,490
1917 and I will perform a miracle and

921
00:37:51,380 --> 00:37:50,070
there are literally thousands of

922
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:51,390
accounts of people who claim they saw

923
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:54,510
the Sun flying around the sky performing

924
00:37:59,360 --> 00:37:56,910
acrobatics throwing our beautiful colors

925
00:38:02,750 --> 00:37:59,370
doing strange things the Sun doesn't

926
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:02,760
normally do and what is very unusual is

927
00:38:08,029 --> 00:38:05,130
that we have photographs of the event

928
00:38:10,249 --> 00:38:08,039
there is a photograph porting to show at

929
00:38:13,220 --> 00:38:10,259
least the object taken from a few miles

930
00:38:15,799 --> 00:38:13,230
away it looks like an eclipse there but

931
00:38:17,539 --> 00:38:15,809
no eclipse was due that day here old

932
00:38:20,029 --> 00:38:17,549
people waiting they've been told to

933
00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:20,039
gather for a sign what I think's

934
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:21,420
interesting is that you look up there

935
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:24,210
you see what the bran is up and it was

936
00:38:29,180 --> 00:38:26,490
raining really heavily during all of

937
00:38:31,220 --> 00:38:29,190
this now the very last thing this object

938
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:31,230
is so this went on for a while doing all

939
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:33,089
this incredible spinning stuff it

940
00:38:37,130 --> 00:38:35,250
suddenly came down very low over the

941
00:38:39,049 --> 00:38:37,140
heads of the crowd who by now of course

942
00:38:41,930 --> 00:38:39,059
would terrify they thought it was now

943
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:41,940
the end of the world but as he did that

944
00:38:48,109 --> 00:38:45,180
the rain stopped instantly the puddles

945
00:38:51,049 --> 00:38:48,119
fiddles as it fizzled into steam and the

946
00:38:54,049 --> 00:38:51,059
clothes were instantly dry like that and

947
00:38:57,499 --> 00:38:54,059
that's it no because some have said when

948
00:39:00,559 --> 00:38:57,509
standing near UFOs water could suddenly

949
00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:00,569
dry up but all right personally you may

950
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:02,640
remember was very keen on pointing that

951
00:39:06,170 --> 00:39:02,880
out

952
00:39:08,329 --> 00:39:06,180
so there's a connotation here now I am

953
00:39:10,670 --> 00:39:08,339
NOT saying the Virgin Mary was or wasn't

954
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:10,680
involved I cannot speak for that but if

955
00:39:14,420 --> 00:39:12,210
you got reported today it would

956
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:14,430
certainly go down as if of course a

957
00:39:18,759 --> 00:39:16,710
major UFO sighting and again you've got

958
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:18,769
the connotation of prophecy and that

959
00:39:24,049 --> 00:39:21,690
binds it together with with many other

960
00:39:26,089 --> 00:39:24,059
things briefly back to crop sir where

961
00:39:28,279 --> 00:39:26,099
some of you may know some of them have

962
00:39:32,029 --> 00:39:28,289
shown over the years clear references to

963
00:39:33,859 --> 00:39:32,039
the the ancient great cycle the people

964
00:39:36,859 --> 00:39:33,869
at the Maya you know had these

965
00:39:38,809 --> 00:39:36,869
prophecies around and it's a cycle of

966
00:39:41,029 --> 00:39:38,819
time that is embedded into many ancient

967
00:39:46,519 --> 00:39:41,039
calendrical systems not just the Maya

968
00:39:48,650 --> 00:39:46,529
and it's a cycle of 5125 years and the

969
00:39:51,470 --> 00:39:48,660
prophecy said when that cycle ended and

970
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:51,480
began again as it did in December 2012

971
00:39:57,769 --> 00:39:54,720
it would herald the beginning of a huge

972
00:40:00,349 --> 00:39:57,779
time of upheaval transformation change

973
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,359
and so forth well of course many would

974
00:40:06,109 --> 00:40:02,400
argue we've had nothing but upheaval

975
00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:06,119
since 2012 and we're now living in the

976
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,980
new era of change according to the

977
00:40:11,539 --> 00:40:09,599
ancients so wasn't the end of the world

978
00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:11,549
as some talked it might be but it was in

979
00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:13,780
a way the beginning of a new world

980
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:15,940
and they'll make some people wonder well

981
00:40:21,150 --> 00:40:18,160
what was it the ancients knew about that

982
00:40:22,950 --> 00:40:21,160
maybe we'd all forgotten so I mean if

983
00:40:25,380 --> 00:40:22,960
you just look at you know the ancients

984
00:40:27,150 --> 00:40:25,390
like the Meyer on that of course you

985
00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:27,160
know then you get all the themes of

986
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:30,190
ancient aliens and it's now quite a wide

987
00:40:37,230 --> 00:40:35,010
belief that we were visited long ago by

988
00:40:39,630 --> 00:40:37,240
extraterrestrials maybe the same ones

989
00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:39,640
that are visiting today and of course

990
00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:41,620
you know you will know much about this

991
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:44,080
as far as I'm aware the first person to

992
00:40:49,170 --> 00:40:45,970
really go pick on this was a good old

993
00:40:51,570 --> 00:40:49,180
Erich von däniken always made fun of on

994
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:51,580
the telly is you know mad eccentric but

995
00:40:57,420 --> 00:40:54,370
to be fair to him his book Chariots of

996
00:41:00,390 --> 00:40:57,430
the Gods hasn't been a multi-billion

997
00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:00,400
Besser for years for nothing there's

998
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:01,750
something in the collective their

999
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:04,090
response to it and you can't knock some

1000
00:41:09,750 --> 00:41:06,010
of the observations what really were the

1001
00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:09,760
Nazca lines in Peru they runways some of

1002
00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:11,560
the old cave paintings did not look like

1003
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:13,630
what you'd call an alien if you saw it

1004
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:14,290
today

1005
00:41:19,050 --> 00:41:16,960
the Oscar is we don't know for sure but

1006
00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:19,060
there's a great appetite for this you

1007
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:21,670
know again the success of the American

1008
00:41:26,010 --> 00:41:24,130
TV series ancient aliens is not for

1009
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,020
nothing it's something that we respond

1010
00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:28,480
to and I think it should be acknowledged

1011
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:31,600
more in the mainstream and of course

1012
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:34,210
this gives rise to various conspiracy

1013
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:36,690
theories that they seeded an

1014
00:41:43,710 --> 00:41:39,610
extraterrestrial gene because you've got

1015
00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:43,720
so many references in old writings like

1016
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:45,670
the book of Genesis chapter 6 and the

1017
00:41:50,670 --> 00:41:48,250
Sumerian legends of a race of beings

1018
00:41:53,070 --> 00:41:50,680
from the sky who come down and

1019
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:53,080
interbreed with mankind and in the Bible

1020
00:41:58,410 --> 00:41:55,570
it says that they then gave birth to a

1021
00:42:00,750 --> 00:41:58,420
hybrid race known as the Nephilim and

1022
00:42:03,330 --> 00:42:00,760
you know you've got this story in many

1023
00:42:05,730 --> 00:42:03,340
ancient texts of us mingling with

1024
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:05,740
something else and of course from that

1025
00:42:10,650 --> 00:42:08,650
you also get at least part of the

1026
00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:10,660
conspiracy theory about the reptilian

1027
00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:13,780
agenda the the bloodline that was seeded

1028
00:42:18,810 --> 00:42:16,990
back then basically maintained itself in

1029
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:18,820
a ruling elite which is of course now

1030
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:21,010
has it it stopped the British royal

1031
00:42:25,950 --> 00:42:22,800
family who are of course

1032
00:42:28,660 --> 00:42:25,960
extraterrestrial lizard

1033
00:42:30,910 --> 00:42:28,670
and many people believe that seems

1034
00:42:32,980 --> 00:42:30,920
reasonable and I'm not here to make fun

1035
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:32,990
of anyone who knows I don't know but

1036
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:35,090
David Icke certainly takes it seriously

1037
00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:37,910
and many people take him seriously worth

1038
00:42:42,130 --> 00:42:40,070
noting that many prime ministers and

1039
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:42,140
presidents are said to also carry the

1040
00:42:52,270 --> 00:42:50,690
same extraterrestrial gene and yes can

1041
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:52,280
we have that conversation at the end do

1042
00:42:56,590 --> 00:42:54,410
I well quick answer yeah I think David I

1043
00:42:59,260 --> 00:42:56,600
don't agree with everything he believes

1044
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,270
but I think he's right about enough that

1045
00:43:03,730 --> 00:43:01,520
he shouldn't be just instantly made fun

1046
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:03,740
of that's how I feel yeah okay but

1047
00:43:08,530 --> 00:43:05,510
hopefully we'll have a time for chat

1048
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:08,540
later but I mean here's an interesting

1049
00:43:13,330 --> 00:43:11,450
thing so it is true that most presidents

1050
00:43:16,030 --> 00:43:13,340
and prime ministers apparently have

1051
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:16,040
strong genealogical links to the British

1052
00:43:20,290 --> 00:43:18,170
royal family I don't know about Trump

1053
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:20,300
but some saying even that's in there but

1054
00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:23,510
it's interesting it may well be that

1055
00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:26,030
even if it's not an alien bloodline that

1056
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:27,430
there is something special about

1057
00:43:32,290 --> 00:43:30,110
maintaining bloodlines I mean how wars

1058
00:43:33,940 --> 00:43:32,300
have been fought over bloodlines of

1059
00:43:37,090 --> 00:43:33,950
course never more so than in this

1060
00:43:40,060 --> 00:43:37,100
country and I mean you know when you

1061
00:43:42,190 --> 00:43:40,070
look just at ancient symbols you can

1062
00:43:44,770 --> 00:43:42,200
certainly show that things from ancient

1063
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:44,780
times still matter in the world today

1064
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:48,290
there's still denote power so just put

1065
00:43:52,660 --> 00:43:49,970
alien genes aside for a minute that may

1066
00:43:54,910 --> 00:43:52,670
or may not be true but say the pyramid

1067
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:54,920
or various ancient Egyptian symbolism

1068
00:44:00,340 --> 00:43:57,290
any Freemasons will tell you this is

1069
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:00,350
still used as markers of power now and

1070
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:01,850
we keep building pyramids they're all

1071
00:44:06,070 --> 00:44:03,410
over the world are in China they're in

1072
00:44:08,590 --> 00:44:06,080
India they're in Peru they're in Vietnam

1073
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:08,600
different coins yes the Mayans have

1074
00:44:12,820 --> 00:44:10,130
their own coins of Pyramus many

1075
00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,830
centuries later some believe the

1076
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:14,960
original pyramids were created by the

1077
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:17,450
survivors of Atlantis or the muriël or

1078
00:44:23,890 --> 00:44:20,480
mu you know there are many legends about

1079
00:44:26,530 --> 00:44:23,900
a lost once enlightened civilization but

1080
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:26,540
it persists the pyramid to the point

1081
00:44:29,980 --> 00:44:28,370
where of course if you're in America

1082
00:44:32,410 --> 00:44:29,990
today you probably got one in your

1083
00:44:35,170 --> 00:44:32,420
pocket because the Great Seal of America

1084
00:44:37,590 --> 00:44:35,180
is the Eye of Providence which again is

1085
00:44:39,660 --> 00:44:37,600
a Masonic symbol founded in 1776

1086
00:44:41,730 --> 00:44:39,670
two-six the Freemason say it's very

1087
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:41,740
lovely symbol as the Divine Being and

1088
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:44,560
looking after everybody there below but

1089
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:46,210
the conspiracy view says it's very

1090
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,090
sinister it is the all-seeing eye with

1091
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:51,280
everybody trapped below it so the

1092
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:52,990
arguments about that go on but we do

1093
00:44:56,910 --> 00:44:53,650
Kemp

1094
00:44:59,520 --> 00:44:56,920
keep building pyramids glass pyramids at

1095
00:45:01,290 --> 00:44:59,530
the Louvre in Paris for instance Canary

1096
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:01,300
Wharf tower right the heart of our

1097
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:04,000
financial center in Greenwich and London

1098
00:45:09,510 --> 00:45:06,970
we have a glass pyramid on the top it is

1099
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:09,520
rumoured and I've never been up there a

1100
00:45:14,130 --> 00:45:11,710
mission it but it's rumored that if you

1101
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:14,140
follow the lines of the pyramid down as

1102
00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:16,330
if they then come to the ground level of

1103
00:45:20,820 --> 00:45:18,790
the tower it is said to then give you

1104
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:20,830
the exact dimensions of the Great

1105
00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:24,370
Pyramid of Giza so if so that's very

1106
00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:26,500
curious indeed because that would

1107
00:45:30,660 --> 00:45:28,390
suggest again they are then linking

1108
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:30,670
ancient power with modern power and

1109
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:32,050
things like that don't happen by

1110
00:45:34,110 --> 00:45:32,650
accident

1111
00:45:35,580 --> 00:45:34,120
so if anybody wants to get out there

1112
00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:35,590
with the tank measure we can put this to

1113
00:45:39,180 --> 00:45:36,160
the test

1114
00:45:41,310 --> 00:45:39,190
but I do think that the Olympics you

1115
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:41,320
know were fantastic for this symbolism

1116
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:43,570
some of you might have noticed at the

1117
00:45:49,410 --> 00:45:46,330
time that we have mascots for the 2012

1118
00:45:51,810 --> 00:45:49,420
Olympics with a single I really are very

1119
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:51,820
like the eye over the pyramid and even

1120
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:53,260
the lighting contra is a very

1121
00:45:56,910 --> 00:45:55,510
reminiscent of the aya Providence and

1122
00:45:59,820 --> 00:45:56,920
some thought that given that this was

1123
00:46:01,770 --> 00:45:59,830
2012 the year of the beginning of the

1124
00:46:04,460 --> 00:46:01,780
new era of change well maybe they were

1125
00:46:06,510 --> 00:46:04,470
trying to see their symbols out there

1126
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:06,520
subliminally knowing that lots of people

1127
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:08,650
would be watching Italian there they're

1128
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:10,930
putting their stamp on the beginning of

1129
00:46:17,550 --> 00:46:13,930
the new era of change but we do know

1130
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:17,560
that secret societies especially do like

1131
00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:21,430
signs and symbols the Bohemian Club is a

1132
00:46:25,410 --> 00:46:23,350
secret society that's not actually very

1133
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:25,420
secret anymore but the mainstream won't

1134
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:29,050
touch it and they begun in California

1135
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:30,910
for those that are new to this in the

1136
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:33,130
late 18-hundreds Boursin woods up

1137
00:46:38,820 --> 00:46:37,090
christened and Bohemian Grove and people

1138
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:38,830
rich and famous from around the world

1139
00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:41,440
began to gather and once a year would do

1140
00:46:46,380 --> 00:46:43,830
this ritual called the cremation of care

1141
00:46:48,310 --> 00:46:46,390
where they sacrifice the effigy of a

1142
00:46:51,550 --> 00:46:48,320
child to a giant stone now

1143
00:46:54,130 --> 00:46:51,560
as you do and this is the thing these

1144
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:54,140
cells are something of Victoriano gone

1145
00:46:59,530 --> 00:46:57,200
man but it's still going on now so the

1146
00:47:01,930 --> 00:46:59,540
same ceremony goes on every year as well

1147
00:47:04,090 --> 00:47:01,940
recognize protesters even show up at the

1148
00:47:06,670 --> 00:47:04,100
gates but you won't hear about this in

1149
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:06,680
the mainstream the nearest we got was

1150
00:47:11,410 --> 00:47:09,410
when the author Jon Ronson broke into

1151
00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:11,420
the Bohemian Grove compound with Channel

1152
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:13,670
four cameras and film the ceremony then

1153
00:47:19,060 --> 00:47:15,530
you can watch you on YouTube that's how

1154
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:19,070
our there it is and yes still 98 percent

1155
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:20,480
of the world's population there's no

1156
00:47:24,430 --> 00:47:22,910
idea that this is going on and he even

1157
00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:24,440
wrote into a chapter in his best-selling

1158
00:47:30,010 --> 00:47:27,320
book then so this can be going on very

1159
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:30,020
overtly and still most of the world

1160
00:47:33,790 --> 00:47:32,240
won't notice and I find that very sad

1161
00:47:36,370 --> 00:47:33,800
can I say question at the end of that's

1162
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:36,380
right I'll give you chance I mean when

1163
00:47:40,570 --> 00:47:38,510
you look at the group's they have

1164
00:47:43,060 --> 00:47:40,580
enormous influence like the bilderbergs

1165
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:43,070
and the trilateral commission and all

1166
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:45,470
these unelected think tanks and windows

1167
00:47:50,590 --> 00:47:48,410
and weird kind of meetings what is so

1168
00:47:53,170 --> 00:47:50,600
incredible is how obvious they are our

1169
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:53,180
mainstream politicians go monarchs go

1170
00:47:57,940 --> 00:47:55,970
people I've Rupert Murdoch go and yet

1171
00:47:59,380 --> 00:47:57,950
still hardly ever mentioned I think the

1172
00:48:00,760 --> 00:47:59,390
Daily Mail ran a feature on the

1173
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:00,770
Bilderberg this year and that was

1174
00:48:03,370 --> 00:48:01,490
unusual

1175
00:48:05,770 --> 00:48:03,380
The Guardian had got in there a couple

1176
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:05,780
of years ago too but on the whole they

1177
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,910
are clearly making decisions which

1178
00:48:12,460 --> 00:48:09,680
influenced Parliament's around the world

1179
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:12,470
and yet we're told that we have no say

1180
00:48:16,210 --> 00:48:14,510
with the wit hole we're not even allowed

1181
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:16,220
to know exactly what it is they talk

1182
00:48:20,950 --> 00:48:18,530
about and of course that just leads to

1183
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:20,960
conspiracy theories they don't like

1184
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:23,510
conspiracy theorists that you know we're

1185
00:48:29,260 --> 00:48:25,850
all being basically operated like

1186
00:48:30,670 --> 00:48:29,270
puppets by some secret ruling elite well

1187
00:48:34,420 --> 00:48:30,680
maybe they'd like to be a little bit

1188
00:48:36,670 --> 00:48:34,430
more open about this and I mean this is

1189
00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:36,680
how the equation works out which again I

1190
00:48:40,090 --> 00:48:38,390
think about David I was one of the first

1191
00:48:42,610 --> 00:48:40,100
to point out if you can keep the

1192
00:48:44,590 --> 00:48:42,620
population in fear all the time of

1193
00:48:46,810 --> 00:48:44,600
course we're always then begging for

1194
00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:46,820
distraction and while we're all

1195
00:48:50,170 --> 00:48:48,350
distracted because we don't want to be

1196
00:48:52,150 --> 00:48:50,180
worried about terrorism and global

1197
00:48:54,910 --> 00:48:52,160
warming and god knows what we're all

1198
00:48:55,620 --> 00:48:54,920
giving into control without noticing so

1199
00:48:58,560 --> 00:48:55,630
the more

1200
00:49:01,200 --> 00:48:58,570
fearful we are the less informed we are

1201
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:01,210
the more easily controlled we are and

1202
00:49:04,860 --> 00:49:03,010
you know now we're getting into the

1203
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:04,870
realms are talking about microchip in

1204
00:49:10,380 --> 00:49:07,450
the population which was last out 25

1205
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:10,390
years ago and now it's begun in America

1206
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:12,330
and Sweden and it'll be here soon enough

1207
00:49:18,450 --> 00:49:15,880
unless people stand up and say no so

1208
00:49:20,550 --> 00:49:18,460
it's quite extraordinary also that you

1209
00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:20,560
know you've got religious agendas going

1210
00:49:26,970 --> 00:49:24,550
on too in America bear in mind we have

1211
00:49:29,070 --> 00:49:26,980
many people that are wanting the Battle

1212
00:49:30,780 --> 00:49:29,080
of Armageddon they believe that they are

1213
00:49:32,610 --> 00:49:30,790
living in the end times but more than

1214
00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:32,620
that they want to bring the end times

1215
00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:35,280
about I mean read some very over

1216
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:37,750
evangelical stuff but again you're not

1217
00:49:40,860 --> 00:49:38,770
going to read about that in the

1218
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:40,870
mainstream even though it's plainly

1219
00:49:45,870 --> 00:49:43,690
motivating mainstream politics we are

1220
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:45,880
endlessly about Trump you don't hear

1221
00:49:50,190 --> 00:49:48,490
much about Mike Pence to you some people

1222
00:49:50,490 --> 00:49:50,200
think pence is more important than meets

1223
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:50,500
the eye

1224
00:49:56,910 --> 00:49:53,650
he is seriously an entire evangelical

1225
00:49:58,560 --> 00:49:56,920
and some people think that he really is

1226
00:49:59,070 --> 00:49:58,570
possibly one of the powers behind the

1227
00:50:00,690 --> 00:49:59,080
throne

1228
00:50:03,330 --> 00:50:00,700
and yet of course we're always looking

1229
00:50:05,010 --> 00:50:03,340
at what Trump's up to so it's worth

1230
00:50:07,290 --> 00:50:05,020
checking this out it wouldn't have gone

1231
00:50:09,210 --> 00:50:07,300
much differently had Hillary won because

1232
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:09,220
Hillary is said to be a member of the

1233
00:50:12,660 --> 00:50:09,910
family

1234
00:50:14,550 --> 00:50:12,670
another key and tiny evangelical

1235
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:14,560
movement so I'm not saying these people

1236
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:16,330
shouldn't have their beliefs absolutely

1237
00:50:20,340 --> 00:50:17,680
everybody's free to believe what they

1238
00:50:23,340 --> 00:50:20,350
will but this is clearly influencing

1239
00:50:25,530 --> 00:50:23,350
global politics and yet nobody's talking

1240
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,540
about it and that's next to many of

1241
00:50:31,050 --> 00:50:28,000
cover up but it certainly smacks of

1242
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:31,060
unfairness if nothing else and it leads

1243
00:50:36,270 --> 00:50:33,970
of course ultimately all of this to make

1244
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:36,280
people question everything they believe

1245
00:50:42,180 --> 00:50:39,010
and that's when people started look at

1246
00:50:44,850 --> 00:50:42,190
even very mainstream events and start to

1247
00:50:47,730 --> 00:50:44,860
wonder that maybe we shouldn't believe

1248
00:50:49,830 --> 00:50:47,740
anything were told anymore so what I

1249
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:49,840
want to do is have a break here and

1250
00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:52,000
we'll come back and we'll kind of try

1251
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:53,710
and tie all of this up in the second

1252
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:56,050
half so gonna have a beer have a drink

1253
00:50:59,490 --> 00:50:58,240
there are some of my books here some of

1254
00:51:02,280 --> 00:50:59,500
the leaflets about the glass bridge

1255
00:51:03,290 --> 00:51:02,290
symposium and it's a website leafless is

1256
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:03,300
that you come and have a load

1257
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:05,310
I see you surely you're right thanks

1258
00:51:15,020 --> 00:51:11,520
very much thank you we've established

1259
00:51:17,060 --> 00:51:15,030
shops now that you know there are very

1260
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:17,070
good reasons to doubt the version of the

1261
00:51:21,170 --> 00:51:19,170
world that we are presented with it's

1262
00:51:23,390 --> 00:51:21,180
absolutely obvious that we are lied to

1263
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:23,400
and it's absolutely obvious therefore

1264
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:26,130
that we shouldn't necessarily ever take

1265
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:29,370
anything at face value so there's a

1266
00:51:33,530 --> 00:51:31,170
whole talk that I gave about the history

1267
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:33,540
of conspiracy theories and I don't want

1268
00:51:37,820 --> 00:51:35,310
to go too far down that route today but

1269
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:37,830
I thought I would focus on two

1270
00:51:43,580 --> 00:51:41,520
conspiracy theories because this kind of

1271
00:51:46,130 --> 00:51:43,590
thinking can lead you down interest in

1272
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:46,140
parts and the next term I think

1273
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:48,210
illustrates some of the interesting gray

1274
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:52,350
areas that come up when you look at the

1275
00:51:56,210 --> 00:51:54,450
claims of cover-ups and conspiracy so

1276
00:51:58,190 --> 00:51:56,220
let's start with one that's great fun

1277
00:52:01,160 --> 00:51:58,200
and many of you will be familiar with it

1278
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:01,170
the one that questions whether we really

1279
00:52:06,590 --> 00:52:04,050
went to the moon now I mean next year

1280
00:52:09,020 --> 00:52:06,600
you are gonna get so much NASA

1281
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:09,030
propaganda because of course is 50 years

1282
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:11,490
next year since man first allegedly

1283
00:52:15,470 --> 00:52:13,290
landed on the moon so they're gonna

1284
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,480
really sell it big time and yeah I don't

1285
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:17,280
think that's gonna make the conspiracy

1286
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:20,250
theories go away at the last count in

1287
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:21,810
Britain anyway cos speak for the world

1288
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:23,970
but I took a poll in Britain for the

1289
00:52:29,060 --> 00:52:26,010
40th anniversary of the moon landings

1290
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:29,070
and roughly 25 percent of British people

1291
00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:32,010
believe they were faked that's a lot of

1292
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:35,040
people so again that's not just one or

1293
00:52:38,750 --> 00:52:37,290
two cranks you can brush your sight you

1294
00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:38,760
know if you brush that aside and make

1295
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:40,590
fun of people that's 25 percent of the

1296
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:43,050
population you're basically dismissing

1297
00:52:48,740 --> 00:52:46,650
and the reasons that they doubt are many

1298
00:52:50,810 --> 00:52:48,750
but I'm just going to look at some of

1299
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:50,820
the reasons today because this is

1300
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:52,890
important because this is held up very

1301
00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:55,110
often as one of the great achievements

1302
00:52:59,330 --> 00:52:58,110
have been kind and yet if you can show

1303
00:53:01,730 --> 00:52:59,340
that they've not been straight about

1304
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:01,740
this well of course then what else have

1305
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:04,530
they not been straight about so the

1306
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:07,050
criticisms are this number one some

1307
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:08,730
people say you've only got three bits of

1308
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:10,290
evidence that we went to the moon you've

1309
00:53:17,050 --> 00:53:12,530
got the astronauts testimony

1310
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:17,060
so you know they say they went but did

1311
00:53:21,010 --> 00:53:18,650
you know they often contradict each

1312
00:53:23,170 --> 00:53:21,020
other I mean some say for instance

1313
00:53:24,940 --> 00:53:23,180
they're looking out the stars were

1314
00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:24,950
amazing another said I couldn't really

1315
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:26,390
see the stars it was a bit disappointing

1316
00:53:31,300 --> 00:53:28,850
well somebody's right and somebody's

1317
00:53:33,940 --> 00:53:31,310
wrong there's no clouds up there so how

1318
00:53:37,260 --> 00:53:33,950
do we explain this um they could be

1319
00:53:40,510 --> 00:53:37,270
lying under threat under oath maybe um

1320
00:53:42,310 --> 00:53:40,520
we've got moon rock but that could have

1321
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:42,320
been brought back by automated probes

1322
00:53:46,390 --> 00:53:44,690
well the Russians did that they brought

1323
00:53:49,510 --> 00:53:46,400
back moon dust and they never stood on

1324
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:49,520
the moon nobody's seen by the way the

1325
00:53:52,660 --> 00:53:51,530
the all of NASA would have been in on

1326
00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:52,670
this now most of them would have

1327
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:55,250
believed they went to the moon rockets

1328
00:53:59,020 --> 00:53:57,290
took off and clearly the people in

1329
00:54:01,060 --> 00:53:59,030
Mission Control probably all thought it

1330
00:54:03,790 --> 00:54:01,070
was real the question is where do those

1331
00:54:05,830 --> 00:54:03,800
images come from and in the end it boils

1332
00:54:09,070 --> 00:54:05,840
down to the images because if you can't

1333
00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:09,080
trust the astronauts testimony and moon

1334
00:54:14,290 --> 00:54:10,880
rock doesn't necessarily prove anything

1335
00:54:16,990 --> 00:54:14,300
it's the visual record that is the main

1336
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:17,000
evidence that we stood there and yet of

1337
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:19,370
course many critics say this is not

1338
00:54:23,470 --> 00:54:21,410
quite right and famously people like

1339
00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:23,480
Marcus Allen who's been a photographer

1340
00:54:28,210 --> 00:54:25,790
himself has raised many objections so

1341
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:28,220
let's have a look at some of this this

1342
00:54:34,690 --> 00:54:31,760
is the most possibly famous photograph

1343
00:54:36,670 --> 00:54:34,700
ever taken this is Buzz Aldrin standing

1344
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,680
on the moon Armstrong a lot of people

1345
00:54:39,820 --> 00:54:38,480
think is Armstrong Armstrong took the

1346
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:39,830
picture in fact we'll see him in a

1347
00:54:45,460 --> 00:54:43,010
minute um or did he take the picture

1348
00:54:47,770 --> 00:54:45,470
well we'll come to that so what have we

1349
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:47,780
got here we've got sunlight coming from

1350
00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:50,240
behind him and is casting a jet-black

1351
00:54:54,190 --> 00:54:52,520
shadow on the ground fair enough now

1352
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:54,200
there's a lot of discussion about shadow

1353
00:54:58,330 --> 00:54:56,330
anomaly as an angles and all of that I'm

1354
00:55:02,020 --> 00:54:58,340
going to leave most of it aside but here

1355
00:55:03,670 --> 00:55:02,030
is an interesting point so why is the

1356
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:03,680
shadow black but the body of the

1357
00:55:07,780 --> 00:55:05,930
astronaut that you would reasonably

1358
00:55:09,820 --> 00:55:07,790
assume might be in silhouette is not

1359
00:55:12,730 --> 00:55:09,830
it's quite well lit up you can see all

1360
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:12,740
the detail on the suit why is he not

1361
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:13,520
black as well

1362
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:16,370
now nASA says well the reason is because

1363
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:18,710
lights bouncing off the surface and it's

1364
00:55:23,290 --> 00:55:21,710
spilling in the detail however there's a

1365
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:23,300
number of critics have said well if

1366
00:55:26,290 --> 00:55:24,290
there's that much

1367
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:26,300
collected light to light see my bat

1368
00:55:30,550 --> 00:55:28,910
brightly you should see some detail on

1369
00:55:33,730 --> 00:55:30,560
the ground and you don't miss jetpack

1370
00:55:36,130 --> 00:55:33,740
many images have the same anomaly right

1371
00:55:40,060 --> 00:55:36,140
this is just a good example you can find

1372
00:55:41,890 --> 00:55:40,070
this in many of the NASA images so ok

1373
00:55:45,130 --> 00:55:41,900
the next thing that you could do is

1374
00:55:47,260 --> 00:55:45,140
raise the exposure of the camera so ok

1375
00:55:49,420 --> 00:55:47,270
fair enough you raise it up and then yes

1376
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:49,430
you'd get the detail on the suit but it

1377
00:55:53,770 --> 00:55:52,370
can then you should have detail visible

1378
00:55:56,890 --> 00:55:53,780
on the ground but you don't

1379
00:55:58,570 --> 00:55:56,900
there's nothing is jet black so that's

1380
00:56:00,550 --> 00:55:58,580
when the critics say ok that's

1381
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:00,560
artificial lighting this has been

1382
00:56:05,380 --> 00:56:03,770
artificially lit but that then creates a

1383
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:05,390
problem because nASA says they didn't

1384
00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:07,520
use any artificial lighting there was no

1385
00:56:13,390 --> 00:56:09,830
film of any lighting gantry's there so

1386
00:56:14,890 --> 00:56:13,400
how do we explain it and here's the

1387
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:14,900
other thing I mean if you did raise the

1388
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:17,330
exposure of the camera up together that

1389
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:19,610
should all be gleaming very very bright

1390
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:21,650
but actually there's an uneven light

1391
00:56:26,770 --> 00:56:24,770
quality in this picture and you can see

1392
00:56:29,230 --> 00:56:26,780
there there's a bright pool of light

1393
00:56:31,590 --> 00:56:29,240
around the astronaut but it starts to

1394
00:56:35,470 --> 00:56:31,600
fall off into shadow towards the horizon

1395
00:56:38,140 --> 00:56:35,480
but of note it's also falling off into

1396
00:56:40,570 --> 00:56:38,150
shadow even 4 or 5 feet in the

1397
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:40,580
foreground which is very long because

1398
00:56:45,430 --> 00:56:42,530
this is on the moon this should be a

1399
00:56:47,110 --> 00:56:45,440
bright uniform light and it's not and it

1400
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:47,120
looks like he's standing in a pool of

1401
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:49,280
light which of course the critics say

1402
00:56:54,580 --> 00:56:52,880
well that's the spotlight so here's

1403
00:56:56,260 --> 00:56:54,590
something else you might not have

1404
00:56:58,810 --> 00:56:56,270
noticed about this picture look at where

1405
00:57:01,090 --> 00:56:58,820
the horizon line goes it's going through

1406
00:57:03,580 --> 00:57:01,100
the helmet there ok now let's see Neil

1407
00:57:05,590 --> 00:57:03,590
Armstrong if you zoom into the helmet

1408
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:05,600
there you'll see on strim and he's

1409
00:57:11,050 --> 00:57:08,090
taking this picture with a camera

1410
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:11,060
strapped to the chest standing on flat

1411
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:11,690
ground

1412
00:57:17,710 --> 00:57:15,410
ok now that means it's very unlikely

1413
00:57:20,860 --> 00:57:17,720
that he could have taken this picture

1414
00:57:22,990 --> 00:57:20,870
because if he took it many people have

1415
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:23,000
calculated the horizon line should go

1416
00:57:27,850 --> 00:57:25,310
through Waldron's middle there not

1417
00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:27,860
through the helmet and you can see the

1418
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:29,990
top of the backpack there so this

1419
00:57:34,540 --> 00:57:32,330
clearly was taken by the camera about 5

1420
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:34,550
6 feet up angled downwards

1421
00:57:39,970 --> 00:57:36,530
and could not have been taken from down

1422
00:57:41,890 --> 00:57:39,980
here at ground level so this is the kind

1423
00:57:44,110 --> 00:57:41,900
of thing that is very visible in a

1424
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:44,120
number of these images there's another

1425
00:57:49,030 --> 00:57:46,790
shadow anomaly another horizon anomaly

1426
00:57:50,980 --> 00:57:49,040
but you can see the camera is quite

1427
00:57:54,370 --> 00:57:50,990
clearly they're strapped to the chest

1428
00:57:56,410 --> 00:57:54,380
now they had no viewfinders they never

1429
00:57:57,970 --> 00:57:56,420
pick them up and look through them so

1430
00:58:01,240 --> 00:57:57,980
they were just walking around going

1431
00:58:02,770 --> 00:58:01,250
click click and hoping finally enough

1432
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:02,780
they've got a lot of masterpieces that

1433
00:58:07,690 --> 00:58:04,960
way but that aside

1434
00:58:09,850 --> 00:58:07,700
they were good cameras in their way but

1435
00:58:11,860 --> 00:58:09,860
one missing element that's never really

1436
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:11,870
been explained they have minimal

1437
00:58:17,050 --> 00:58:14,810
radiation protection if any this is my

1438
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:17,060
child about they would code to the

1439
00:58:20,430 --> 00:58:18,890
various things but many people have said

1440
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:20,440
that wouldn't have kept the x-rays out

1441
00:58:25,180 --> 00:58:23,210
now you may or may not remember years

1442
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:25,190
ago when he came back from your holidays

1443
00:58:30,610 --> 00:58:28,010
with a film and a canister of all your

1444
00:58:33,340 --> 00:58:30,620
holiday snaps they would often say don't

1445
00:58:35,260 --> 00:58:33,350
put it through the airport scanner why

1446
00:58:38,110 --> 00:58:35,270
because the x-rays that the scanner

1447
00:58:40,540 --> 00:58:38,120
would fog the film well on the moon I

1448
00:58:43,660 --> 00:58:40,550
mean it is awash with x-rays nor coins

1449
00:58:47,380 --> 00:58:43,670
about the cosmic radiation how did the

1450
00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:47,390
film survive maybe they did go to the

1451
00:58:51,010 --> 00:58:49,520
moon and they could never make the films

1452
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:51,020
come out there but they got back they

1453
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:53,570
were blink they had to show this obvious

1454
00:58:58,780 --> 00:58:56,090
something so maybe they then had to re

1455
00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:58,790
station but I was go even further and

1456
00:59:03,250 --> 00:59:01,040
say yeah but actually how did the

1457
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:03,260
astronauts survive the radiation it's

1458
00:59:06,970 --> 00:59:05,090
never really been explained either I

1459
00:59:09,250 --> 00:59:06,980
mean the suit keep out a certain amount

1460
00:59:11,530 --> 00:59:09,260
but how much and many say the exposure

1461
00:59:14,980 --> 00:59:11,540
they had should have left them extremely

1462
00:59:17,110 --> 00:59:14,990
vulnerable to cancer and whatnot later

1463
00:59:19,570 --> 00:59:17,120
on but there seems no higher statistical

1464
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:19,580
rate amongst the astronauts so there's

1465
00:59:24,940 --> 00:59:22,310
many others the question says let's just

1466
00:59:27,010 --> 00:59:24,950
kick over the pictures for a minute is

1467
00:59:31,630 --> 00:59:27,020
the lunar lander there's the Sun jet

1468
00:59:33,130 --> 00:59:31,640
black shadow but again so much light in

1469
00:59:36,070 --> 00:59:33,140
what ought to be in silhouette the

1470
00:59:39,250 --> 00:59:36,080
astronauts glowing he's got a lens flare

1471
00:59:40,570 --> 00:59:39,260
coming off of him and if you zoom in you

1472
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:40,580
go online you can look at the

1473
00:59:44,650 --> 00:59:41,930
high-resolution shots

1474
00:59:46,660 --> 00:59:44,660
if you zoom in you can see the lights

1475
00:59:48,910 --> 00:59:46,670
acting light coming directly in from the

1476
00:59:51,069 --> 00:59:48,920
side it is not bouncing off of the

1477
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:51,079
surface it's not earth light because the

1478
00:59:57,039 --> 00:59:54,049
earth directly up here somewhere it's

1479
00:59:59,349 --> 00:59:57,049
artificial lighting so this is of course

1480
01:00:02,589 --> 00:59:59,359
where then you start to think okay why

1481
01:00:04,859 --> 01:00:02,599
why then would they need to do that what

1482
01:00:08,650 --> 01:00:04,869
else don't you see in this picture a

1483
01:00:12,039 --> 01:00:08,660
saline from the rubbish sack in all six

1484
01:00:14,910 --> 01:00:12,049
missions you never see any crater any

1485
01:00:17,140 --> 01:00:14,920
big disturbance of moon dust or any cert

1486
01:00:19,299 --> 01:00:17,150
underneath these craft which came down

1487
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:19,309
on several thousand pounds worth of

1488
01:00:24,099 --> 01:00:21,410
thrust now if you watch the videos

1489
01:00:25,809 --> 01:00:24,109
because NASA says ah well we cut the

1490
01:00:27,549 --> 01:00:25,819
motors slightly before we touch ground

1491
01:00:29,230 --> 01:00:27,559
you watch the video is they clearly

1492
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:29,240
didn't or you know there's enough that

1493
01:00:34,059 --> 01:00:31,250
it would have created a serious

1494
01:00:36,130 --> 01:00:34,069
displacement of the dust and yet we see

1495
01:00:39,339 --> 01:00:36,140
no evidence of this at all on the moon

1496
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:39,349
now let's go to Mars for a minute a few

1497
01:00:43,690 --> 01:00:41,450
years ago the Curiosity rover got

1498
01:00:47,829 --> 01:00:43,700
lowered down from a platform which

1499
01:00:51,730 --> 01:00:47,839
hovered 70 feet up and even 70 feet up

1500
01:00:53,859 --> 01:00:51,740
the jes scalded the ground and on the

1501
01:00:55,809 --> 01:00:53,869
moon I was connected now let me talk

1502
01:00:58,390 --> 01:00:55,819
about there you can just see the

1503
01:01:01,000 --> 01:00:58,400
scalding there so they scalded the

1504
01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:01,010
ground very notably on the moon there's

1505
01:01:06,029 --> 01:01:03,440
not only no scalding but not even any

1506
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:06,039
dust is blown onto the feet of the craft

1507
01:01:11,289 --> 01:01:08,569
it's almost like somebody's come in and

1508
01:01:14,019 --> 01:01:11,299
vacuumed afterwards and that's where

1509
01:01:16,329 --> 01:01:14,029
some say this is too sterile this looks

1510
01:01:18,670 --> 01:01:16,339
like scenery compared to another Mars

1511
01:01:20,980 --> 01:01:18,680
Lander have a look at the Phoenix lander

1512
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:20,990
showing what you'd expect dirt and dust

1513
01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:23,930
on the feed but on the moon we're told

1514
01:01:27,940 --> 01:01:25,849
that moon dust went everywhere by the

1515
01:01:29,890 --> 01:01:27,950
way here the amount of accounts moon

1516
01:01:31,839 --> 01:01:29,900
dust by gaudí once it was up it took

1517
01:01:34,089 --> 01:01:31,849
ages it came down all over everything

1518
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:34,099
well there is no visual record of that

1519
01:01:38,710 --> 01:01:36,170
anywhere and when you see the lunar

1520
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:38,720
rover by the way driving around watch

1521
01:01:43,180 --> 01:01:40,640
watch the dust it just pops straight

1522
01:01:44,859 --> 01:01:43,190
back down like heavy sand it doesn't do

1523
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:44,869
what they said it did so it's all very

1524
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:48,799
odd and one last word about the lunar

1525
01:01:53,450 --> 01:01:50,960
lander when it takes off what don't you

1526
01:01:56,780 --> 01:01:53,460
see there's no clue

1527
01:01:58,460 --> 01:01:56,790
there's no evidence of any thrust coming

1528
01:02:01,760 --> 01:01:58,470
out of that was going up while several

1529
01:02:03,860 --> 01:02:01,770
thousand pounds worth of thrust so some

1530
01:02:06,290 --> 01:02:03,870
of said well maybe because it's in a

1531
01:02:08,390 --> 01:02:06,300
vacuum you wouldn't see it well you

1532
01:02:10,850 --> 01:02:08,400
would and you can prove that you work

1533
01:02:13,370 --> 01:02:10,860
because only a few years later the Space

1534
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:13,380
Shuttle used exactly the same for your

1535
01:02:17,150 --> 01:02:16,530
mix and when that fired its thrusters in

1536
01:02:20,390 --> 01:02:17,160
space

1537
01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:20,400
it was very visible on the moon nothing

1538
01:02:25,850 --> 01:02:23,160
the moon it looks like it's going up on

1539
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:25,860
a wire which is of course exactly what

1540
01:02:31,340 --> 01:02:28,770
some argue it's a model shop Stanley

1541
01:02:32,990 --> 01:02:31,350
Kubrick had shown very convincing model

1542
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:33,000
shots just the year before the first

1543
01:02:37,490 --> 01:02:35,610
moon landing in the 2001 film course

1544
01:02:39,410 --> 01:02:37,500
many have accused him have been involved

1545
01:02:41,660 --> 01:02:39,420
with faking I don't personally subscribe

1546
01:02:44,990 --> 01:02:41,670
to that but some of the techniques yeah

1547
01:02:47,090 --> 01:02:45,000
may well have been used some people say

1548
01:02:50,330 --> 01:02:47,100
yeah but NASA wouldn't lie died never

1549
01:02:51,590 --> 01:02:50,340
lie what date when I would I mean here

1550
01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:51,600
for instance have you not seen this

1551
01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:53,910
before this is a good one for years this

1552
01:02:58,790 --> 01:02:55,740
was out in the public domain as a

1553
01:03:01,160 --> 01:02:58,800
picture of Michael Collins space walking

1554
01:03:04,490 --> 01:03:01,170
from one of the Gemini craft it's even

1555
01:03:06,830 --> 01:03:04,500
in his autobiography but then some years

1556
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:06,840
later on somebody was going through the

1557
01:03:11,180 --> 01:03:09,330
NASA image Bank and they found this

1558
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:11,190
picture of Michael Pollan's in a test

1559
01:03:16,940 --> 01:03:14,490
airplane and they cut him out and

1560
01:03:19,010 --> 01:03:16,950
they've stuck him on black and it's not

1561
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:19,020
cheap and nasty and there's a number of

1562
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:20,490
other images you can prove a

1563
01:03:25,490 --> 01:03:22,890
cut-and-paste jobs because you can find

1564
01:03:28,610 --> 01:03:25,500
the original source material which they

1565
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:28,620
seem not to bother to then hide so the

1566
01:03:32,330 --> 01:03:30,090
point is if they can do their four or

1567
01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:32,340
five times how do we know they didn't do

1568
01:03:37,460 --> 01:03:35,910
it four or five thousand times now we

1569
01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:37,470
could be here all day here are just a

1570
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:38,940
few other questions about the moon

1571
01:03:42,260 --> 01:03:40,050
landings I'm not even going to go

1572
01:03:44,030 --> 01:03:42,270
through them look it up if you don't

1573
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:44,040
know where to start again take a website

1574
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:46,290
leaflet look it up it's really worth

1575
01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:48,330
looking at I'm not saying we didn't go

1576
01:03:53,810 --> 01:03:50,640
to the moon or I was not there and I

1577
01:03:57,430 --> 01:03:53,820
can't say that does the evidence which

1578
01:04:00,020 --> 01:03:57,440
is presented seem entirely convincing no

1579
01:04:01,850 --> 01:04:00,030
that that's what we're saying here and

1580
01:04:03,620 --> 01:04:01,860
it's one of those gray areas there's

1581
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:03,630
something not right about

1582
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:05,490
evidence that they present and therefore

1583
01:04:10,460 --> 01:04:08,970
of course that leaves a big hole because

1584
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:10,470
it makes you wonder what it is they

1585
01:04:15,710 --> 01:04:12,810
might be lying about and that of course

1586
01:04:18,110 --> 01:04:15,720
then leads to mistrust in authority now

1587
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:18,120
let's zoom forward a few decades from

1588
01:04:24,110 --> 01:04:20,730
this because the other example I want to

1589
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:24,120
give of a conspiracy stroke cover-up

1590
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:26,730
which is blatant when you look at it and

1591
01:04:31,550 --> 01:04:29,880
if you've not seen this before well it

1592
01:04:36,380 --> 01:04:31,560
might seem shocking to everyone else

1593
01:04:38,510 --> 01:04:36,390
you're probably on but 9/11 9/11 is now

1594
01:04:41,390 --> 01:04:38,520
one of the biggest conspiracy theories

1595
01:04:44,210 --> 01:04:41,400
of all time I think at the last poll

1596
01:04:46,850 --> 01:04:44,220
roughly speaking around 50% of the

1597
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:46,860
world's population does not believe the

1598
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:49,050
official story that's a lot of people

1599
01:04:54,590 --> 01:04:52,050
and of that percentage around thirty to

1600
01:04:57,410 --> 01:04:54,600
thirty five percent believed that it was

1601
01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:57,420
basically at least partially staged by

1602
01:05:02,570 --> 01:05:00,240
somebody within America itself in the

1603
01:05:05,210 --> 01:05:02,580
command and control structure so that's

1604
01:05:07,130 --> 01:05:05,220
a massive accusation of course now that

1605
01:05:09,380 --> 01:05:07,140
doesn't mean how kinda wasn't involved

1606
01:05:10,910 --> 01:05:09,390
you always need patsies you'd have

1607
01:05:14,060 --> 01:05:10,920
somebody to blame so they probably aware

1608
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:14,070
on some level but how was 9/11 as

1609
01:05:18,740 --> 01:05:17,130
successful as it was and this is one of

1610
01:05:21,140 --> 01:05:18,750
those things that the mainstream will

1611
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:21,150
not touch so bill other moon landings

1612
01:05:24,290 --> 01:05:22,710
know that they're laughing it but they

1613
01:05:28,250 --> 01:05:24,300
generally won't go there by the old

1614
01:05:31,460 --> 01:05:28,260
channel five documentary this no they

1615
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:31,470
cannot go there and if you try to they

1616
01:05:35,330 --> 01:05:33,570
wall demolish it there on invent stupid

1617
01:05:37,390 --> 01:05:35,340
theories which they can then knock down

1618
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:37,400
which are nothing to do with the real

1619
01:05:43,340 --> 01:05:41,370
criticisms of the evidence it's so

1620
01:05:45,350 --> 01:05:43,350
obvious that this story is a lie now a

1621
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:45,360
way the truth is that's another matter

1622
01:05:50,540 --> 01:05:48,330
and I can't decide that for you but you

1623
01:05:52,670 --> 01:05:50,550
can easily show that what they say

1624
01:05:54,380 --> 01:05:52,680
happened didn't happen in the way that

1625
01:05:56,770 --> 01:05:54,390
they say it did which immediately makes

1626
01:05:59,480 --> 01:05:56,780
you I know why they not being straight

1627
01:06:02,330 --> 01:05:59,490
I'll just very briefly scratched the

1628
01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:02,340
surface of this for instance at the

1629
01:06:07,340 --> 01:06:05,520
Pentagon right the main aeroplane which

1630
01:06:10,030 --> 01:06:07,350
we're told that hit the Pentagon had a

1631
01:06:12,190 --> 01:06:10,040
wingspan of 164 feet and you

1632
01:06:15,310 --> 01:06:12,200
main entry point is barely 20 feet

1633
01:06:17,470 --> 01:06:15,320
across now the official explanation for

1634
01:06:20,260 --> 01:06:17,480
this is that the wings vaporized on

1635
01:06:22,620 --> 01:06:20,270
impact that's the first feet perusing

1636
01:06:25,210 --> 01:06:22,630
error plane in the whole of history

1637
01:06:27,610 --> 01:06:25,220
that's a pretty desperate claim to me

1638
01:06:29,410 --> 01:06:27,620
the people in the pentacle know the time

1639
01:06:32,110 --> 01:06:29,420
said it was really weird it was minimal

1640
01:06:35,350 --> 01:06:32,120
debris hardly any luggage there was no

1641
01:06:37,990 --> 01:06:35,360
bodies lying around some believe that

1642
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:38,000
what hit it was a small craft or even a

1643
01:06:42,970 --> 01:06:40,640
missile certainly there's no evidence

1644
01:06:44,740 --> 01:06:42,980
that this plane hit it now what did hit

1645
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:44,750
it you know it could be a road a what I

1646
01:06:48,850 --> 01:06:46,640
have to the real plane there's a lot of

1647
01:06:50,590 --> 01:06:48,860
speculation about that there's much more

1648
01:06:51,940 --> 01:06:50,600
about this in the truth agenda book

1649
01:06:53,860 --> 01:06:51,950
especially if you want to have a look

1650
01:06:55,630 --> 01:06:53,870
later we haven't got the time tonight

1651
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:55,640
there's a lot of reasons for where those

1652
01:06:59,500 --> 01:06:57,290
planes might have gone we're not going

1653
01:07:02,110 --> 01:06:59,510
to get into hologram theory here but

1654
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:02,120
there are certainly reasons to doubt

1655
01:07:05,890 --> 01:07:04,400
that the planes that we're told hit the

1656
01:07:08,590 --> 01:07:05,900
buildings were the real planes and

1657
01:07:10,630 --> 01:07:08,600
certainly there are issues and here is

1658
01:07:12,370 --> 01:07:10,640
we're told the flight path that that

1659
01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:12,380
aeroplane took to come in and hit the

1660
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:14,000
Pentagon notice anything strange about

1661
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:14,650
it

1662
01:07:23,020 --> 01:07:20,210
there's a really tiny curve dropping

1663
01:07:24,700 --> 01:07:23,030
like hundreds of feet very quickly the

1664
01:07:25,390 --> 01:07:24,710
speed we're told was about five hundred

1665
01:07:28,690 --> 01:07:25,400
feet across

1666
01:07:30,310 --> 01:07:28,700
now I've had pilots tell me that is not

1667
01:07:33,340 --> 01:07:30,320
possible in one of those planes

1668
01:07:35,230 --> 01:07:33,350
he should have broken up in the air and

1669
01:07:37,030 --> 01:07:35,240
even if it was possible there are other

1670
01:07:38,980 --> 01:07:37,040
issues number one why didn't they just

1671
01:07:41,020 --> 01:07:38,990
head straight down and take up the half

1672
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:41,030
that block but it went out of its way to

1673
01:07:46,210 --> 01:07:43,370
hit the one block there was under

1674
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:46,220
renovation at that's right I didn't have

1675
01:07:51,210 --> 01:07:48,170
that many people in it you know they

1676
01:07:52,690 --> 01:07:51,220
want not too much carnage there

1677
01:07:55,300 --> 01:07:52,700
interesting isn't it

1678
01:07:58,450 --> 01:07:55,310
and who performed this extraordinary

1679
01:08:02,170 --> 01:07:58,460
feat of aerial acrobatics well let's

1680
01:08:04,810 --> 01:08:02,180
have a look honey I'm sure this is the

1681
01:08:07,930 --> 01:08:04,820
man and I'll clay a hijacker that we

1682
01:08:10,300 --> 01:08:07,940
were told even by the flight school that

1683
01:08:12,790 --> 01:08:10,310
inadvertently trained him they said he

1684
01:08:15,610 --> 01:08:12,800
was the worst pilot they'd ever had he

1685
01:08:17,620 --> 01:08:15,620
could barely handle a Cessna and yet

1686
01:08:18,980 --> 01:08:17,630
we're being asked to believe a 911 he

1687
01:08:21,020 --> 01:08:18,990
did this

1688
01:08:23,030 --> 01:08:21,030
none of it makes sense there's so much

1689
01:08:26,570 --> 01:08:23,040
more we could say I'm just giving you

1690
01:08:28,730 --> 01:08:26,580
pin pricks here the Twin Towers collapse

1691
01:08:31,430 --> 01:08:28,740
it seems that maximum carnage was

1692
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:31,440
desired that and there are so many

1693
01:08:35,390 --> 01:08:33,510
anomalies about how they collapse you

1694
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:35,400
know we're told the fire and the damage

1695
01:08:40,220 --> 01:08:37,440
brought them down but there are now so

1696
01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:40,230
many architects so many engineers that

1697
01:08:44,540 --> 01:08:42,510
are questioning that just saying that is

1698
01:08:46,580 --> 01:08:44,550
not possible at least not without some

1699
01:08:48,860 --> 01:08:46,590
unevenness of clap so you know you

1700
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:48,870
expect not to see them go down like

1701
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:51,570
packs of cars and of course many people

1702
01:08:54,890 --> 01:08:53,250
have pointed out that it's very visible

1703
01:08:57,500 --> 01:08:54,900
that you get these strange sub

1704
01:08:59,600 --> 01:08:57,510
explosions going down the tower which

1705
01:09:01,640 --> 01:08:59,610
have nothing to do with the collapses

1706
01:09:04,810 --> 01:09:01,650
when you see the collapses they are

1707
01:09:08,510 --> 01:09:04,820
collapsing it effectively freefall speed

1708
01:09:10,150 --> 01:09:08,520
okay so nothing can fall faster than

1709
01:09:12,860 --> 01:09:10,160
that so what are these they think to be

1710
01:09:14,990 --> 01:09:12,870
independent if you look at footage of a

1711
01:09:18,530 --> 01:09:15,000
real demolition as a block of flats

1712
01:09:20,540 --> 01:09:18,540
going down in Philadelphia they do look

1713
01:09:22,820 --> 01:09:20,550
rather like demolition charges is as

1714
01:09:26,150 --> 01:09:22,830
many demolition experts have said it

1715
01:09:27,710 --> 01:09:26,160
looks like they pre place charges in the

1716
01:09:30,340 --> 01:09:27,720
building to make it go down which of

1717
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:30,350
course is very anomalous who why what

1718
01:09:36,170 --> 01:09:32,970
the evidence is very strong you even see

1719
01:09:38,060 --> 01:09:36,180
molten something rolling down the sides

1720
01:09:41,450 --> 01:09:38,070
of the towers a lot of debate about what

1721
01:09:43,190 --> 01:09:41,460
that is it can't be molten metal or if

1722
01:09:45,170 --> 01:09:43,200
it is something's been introduced into

1723
01:09:47,690 --> 01:09:45,180
that building to make something burn

1724
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:47,700
hotter than any of the officially

1725
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:49,290
acknowledged fires could possibly a

1726
01:09:53,750 --> 01:09:51,570
burnt her the temperature information

1727
01:09:56,140 --> 01:09:53,760
they give makes no sense if that's

1728
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:56,150
molten metal there are many anomalies

1729
01:10:02,180 --> 01:09:59,040
again the evidence that these charges is

1730
01:10:04,220 --> 01:10:02,190
strong visually whether it's some new

1731
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:04,230
strange technology like Judy wood

1732
01:10:08,210 --> 01:10:06,570
believes whether it's some conventional

1733
01:10:09,980 --> 01:10:08,220
demolition technology who knows the

1734
01:10:11,510 --> 01:10:09,990
arguments go on I don't know I'm no

1735
01:10:13,580 --> 01:10:11,520
expert there is something very wrong

1736
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:13,590
with what we see in these collapses and

1737
01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:16,800
remember that on the day firemen risky

1738
01:10:20,180 --> 01:10:18,570
workers people being brought out of the

1739
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:20,190
building said there were bombs in the

1740
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:22,770
buildings you'll see the famous footage

1741
01:10:26,810 --> 01:10:24,210
of the firemen going it's going boom

1742
01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:26,820
boom boom like bombs even before the

1743
01:10:29,970 --> 01:10:28,270
collapses began

1744
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:29,980
that you will never see that on

1745
01:10:35,150 --> 01:10:32,560
mainstream TV now or you find on YouTube

1746
01:10:38,300 --> 01:10:35,160
just until that all gets thrown off soon

1747
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:38,310
it's extraordinary the way they have now

1748
01:10:42,660 --> 01:10:41,050
misrepresented this to the public and of

1749
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:42,670
course where all of this gets really

1750
01:10:48,270 --> 01:10:45,520
peculiar is the fact that after all the

1751
01:10:50,850 --> 01:10:48,280
carnage at the Twin Towers some hours

1752
01:10:53,150 --> 01:10:50,860
later this building a couple of blocks

1753
01:10:56,370 --> 01:10:53,160
away from their building number seven

1754
01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:56,380
which house the American Secret Service

1755
01:11:01,460 --> 01:10:58,690
and many other important departments in

1756
01:11:05,130 --> 01:11:01,470
the u.s. stay for no reason whatsoever

1757
01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:05,140
suddenly decides to do this which is

1758
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:07,240
it'd be odd even that it was never hit

1759
01:11:11,940 --> 01:11:10,210
by an airplane and I can see from some

1760
01:11:13,650 --> 01:11:11,950
faces here that some of you a nutriment

1761
01:11:15,660 --> 01:11:13,660
some of you you've never seen this

1762
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:15,670
before others you go oh god not building

1763
01:11:21,830 --> 01:11:18,910
seven again but the mainstream will not

1764
01:11:24,570 --> 01:11:21,840
talk about it or only only to knock it

1765
01:11:26,580 --> 01:11:24,580
there are scientific reports which

1766
01:11:29,010 --> 01:11:26,590
purport to explain why this building

1767
01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:29,020
fell down they are widely considered to

1768
01:11:34,410 --> 01:11:31,240
be scientific fraud in many circles

1769
01:11:36,510 --> 01:11:34,420
because they simply make no sense what

1770
01:11:41,370 --> 01:11:36,520
brought that Bell was apparently fire

1771
01:11:44,580 --> 01:11:41,380
here is the fire not a lot really if

1772
01:11:47,940 --> 01:11:44,590
that little fire brings down a 47-story

1773
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:47,950
steel frame building why didn't they

1774
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:50,530
evacuate every similarly built building

1775
01:11:54,660 --> 01:11:52,510
around the world the next day because

1776
01:11:56,490 --> 01:11:54,670
there are many other buildings made that

1777
01:11:57,810 --> 01:11:56,500
way and funnily enough several of them

1778
01:12:00,660 --> 01:11:57,820
had caught fire and nobody's ever

1779
01:12:03,150 --> 01:12:00,670
thought they would suddenly collapse the

1780
01:12:05,820 --> 01:12:03,160
general view in the conspiracy world is

1781
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:05,830
that 9/11 was at least partially if not

1782
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:08,110
wholly coordinated from this building

1783
01:12:12,810 --> 01:12:10,570
and they had to bring the evidence down

1784
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:12,820
at the end of the day and isn't it

1785
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:14,800
interesting that when we had the grand

1786
01:12:20,970 --> 01:12:18,090
full tragedy a building cheaply made

1787
01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:20,980
burnt for something like 24 hours but it

1788
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:23,020
didn't collapse and nobody thought that

1789
01:12:27,210 --> 01:12:25,570
was an anomalous when building seven

1790
01:12:28,590 --> 01:12:27,220
built to withstand everything did but

1791
01:12:31,230 --> 01:12:28,600
nobody raised that in the mainstream

1792
01:12:33,299 --> 01:12:31,240
funny that isn't it because that should

1793
01:12:35,729 --> 01:12:33,309
have been a major feature

1794
01:12:37,979 --> 01:12:35,739
the CIA would be investigated for the

1795
01:12:39,899 --> 01:12:37,989
loss of trillions of dollars the

1796
01:12:45,529 --> 01:12:39,909
paperwork copy was kept in building

1797
01:12:48,510 --> 01:12:45,539
seven the IT copy was kept in a Pentagon

1798
01:12:54,089 --> 01:12:48,520
in the exact place and they lost them

1799
01:12:55,649 --> 01:12:54,099
all oh well I'm in building number 70

1800
01:12:57,750 --> 01:12:55,659
and we're on investigator member the be

1801
01:12:59,580 --> 01:12:57,760
Enron scandal was being investigated

1802
01:13:02,459 --> 01:12:59,590
there and again they lost a lot of key

1803
01:13:04,109 --> 01:13:02,469
papers funnily enough on that day again

1804
01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:04,119
it's like the moon landings I'm not

1805
01:13:09,330 --> 01:13:05,710
gonna go through all these there are so

1806
01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:09,340
many unanswered questions about 9/11 if

1807
01:13:14,430 --> 01:13:11,590
you believe the official story you are

1808
01:13:16,529 --> 01:13:14,440
believing it very bravely in the face of

1809
01:13:19,169 --> 01:13:16,539
enormous amounts of evidence to clearly

1810
01:13:22,410 --> 01:13:19,179
contradict it again have a look at the

1811
01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:22,420
books take a leaflet look online it you

1812
01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:24,760
need to know more if this is new to you

1813
01:13:28,729 --> 01:13:26,409
you owe it to yourselves to find out

1814
01:13:31,470 --> 01:13:28,739
more because I cannot in five minutes

1815
01:13:33,750 --> 01:13:31,480
explain why this you know is the way it

1816
01:13:35,790 --> 01:13:33,760
is when you see the detail though you'll

1817
01:13:37,459 --> 01:13:35,800
realize immediately there's something

1818
01:13:39,870 --> 01:13:37,469
very very wrong

1819
01:13:41,700 --> 01:13:39,880
here's the thing I mean some people say

1820
01:13:43,529 --> 01:13:41,710
well why would they do that well I can

1821
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:43,539
think of a lot of reasons it gave them

1822
01:13:49,260 --> 01:13:46,960
the mandates for all the wars if you you

1823
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:49,270
know look at the New World Order project

1824
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:51,489
and the unfolding of that which I trace

1825
01:13:56,129 --> 01:13:53,440
in the book conspiracies and in my

1826
01:13:58,589 --> 01:13:56,139
conspiracies tall you realize that they

1827
01:14:00,750 --> 01:13:58,599
needed Wars they needed reasons to be in

1828
01:14:02,790 --> 01:14:00,760
the places it led them it of course

1829
01:14:05,910 --> 01:14:02,800
opened the door to the control and

1830
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:05,920
surveillance agenda of the back of 9/11

1831
01:14:11,010 --> 01:14:09,010
we lost fundamental liberties people

1832
01:14:14,850 --> 01:14:11,020
don't realize how much Liberty we lost

1833
01:14:16,379 --> 01:14:14,860
because of 9/11 and you know pence back

1834
01:14:18,419 --> 01:14:16,389
to where we left off in the first half

1835
01:14:20,279 --> 01:14:18,429
now they're talking about microchipping

1836
01:14:23,220 --> 01:14:20,289
everybody and they can sell it because

1837
01:14:24,990 --> 01:14:23,230
we'll all be safer we'll be safe from

1838
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:25,000
terrorists and all of this and every

1839
01:14:29,819 --> 01:14:27,010
time there's a new terror attack of

1840
01:14:33,029 --> 01:14:29,829
course that's just regester fine so once

1841
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:33,039
again the more that we're afraid the

1842
01:14:36,419 --> 01:14:34,510
more we are then open to being

1843
01:14:38,700 --> 01:14:36,429
controlled and this would be another

1844
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:38,710
very good reason to mount something like

1845
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:40,449
9/11 there's plenty of people in the

1846
01:14:42,380 --> 01:14:41,440
world who wouldn't think twice about

1847
01:14:44,540 --> 01:14:42,390
doing that

1848
01:14:46,190 --> 01:14:44,550
sadly they're in laughs live minority

1849
01:14:48,650 --> 01:14:46,200
most people are very nice and very good

1850
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:48,660
but he get big powerful people they

1851
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:50,640
would in some way in their minds justify

1852
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:54,000
why that had to be done but sadly most

1853
01:14:59,330 --> 01:14:57,600
of us don't agree or happily look at the

1854
01:15:01,190 --> 01:14:59,340
mainstream could the mainstream

1855
01:15:04,130 --> 01:15:01,200
cover-ups that have been revealed in

1856
01:15:06,820 --> 01:15:04,140
recent years Hillsboro weapons of mass

1857
01:15:10,190 --> 01:15:06,830
destruction bank scandals MPs expenses

1858
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:10,200
the Jimmy Savile debacle I mean Jimmy

1859
01:15:14,450 --> 01:15:11,760
Savile was named as a pedophile on

1860
01:15:16,910 --> 01:15:14,460
conspiracy websites about a decade

1861
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:16,920
before it all came out well think what

1862
01:15:20,420 --> 01:15:18,450
could have been stopped in that time has

1863
01:15:23,330 --> 01:15:20,430
somebody listened but no they were just

1864
01:15:25,790 --> 01:15:23,340
bad conspiracy theorists and in the news

1865
01:15:29,030 --> 01:15:25,800
again recently we have it with Snowden

1866
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:29,040
back Snowden's revelations that we were

1867
01:15:32,870 --> 01:15:30,810
all under mess surveillance wouldn't be

1868
01:15:35,180 --> 01:15:32,880
a surprise to people already in the

1869
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:35,190
conspiracy world but you know it was a

1870
01:15:39,230 --> 01:15:37,650
revelation to a lot of people and sadly

1871
01:15:40,460 --> 01:15:39,240
the world was now shrugged and said oh I

1872
01:15:41,690 --> 01:15:40,470
suppose we are under mass surveillance

1873
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:41,700
oh well never mind

1874
01:15:46,370 --> 01:15:43,970
and that also is a worrying response

1875
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:46,380
we've been very nice I'll about that

1876
01:15:51,380 --> 01:15:48,930
instead of getting I'm going crazy we've

1877
01:15:54,620 --> 01:15:51,390
just sort of shrugged it off but should

1878
01:15:56,150 --> 01:15:54,630
we and by the way it won't surprise you

1879
01:15:57,830 --> 01:15:56,160
to learn that you're not gonna find many

1880
01:15:59,870 --> 01:15:57,840
people that study this kind of thing

1881
01:16:02,690 --> 01:15:59,880
believing the whole story about the sort

1882
01:16:04,670 --> 01:16:02,700
spree nerve gas attack many people think

1883
01:16:06,710 --> 01:16:04,680
we're now being led into a new Cold War

1884
01:16:09,650 --> 01:16:06,720
that doesn't mean a Russian to whiter

1885
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:09,660
than white course they're not but did

1886
01:16:12,890 --> 01:16:11,250
they do this in exactly the way we're

1887
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:12,900
told because if they did that evidence

1888
01:16:17,630 --> 01:16:15,690
has not been presented and this is the

1889
01:16:20,660 --> 01:16:17,640
kind of thing we're led into war were

1890
01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:20,670
led into hating basically other

1891
01:16:25,550 --> 01:16:23,280
countries on the back of war limp the

1892
01:16:30,170 --> 01:16:25,560
claims which they haven't yet backed up

1893
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:30,180
and sadly this goes on a lot so back to

1894
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:32,490
the x-files the x-files over the years

1895
01:16:36,860 --> 01:16:34,080
has covered a lot of this kind of ground

1896
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:36,870
under the guise of fiction and people

1897
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:38,250
watching oh that's exciting

1898
01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:40,800
I enjoyed that not everybody makes the

1899
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:42,360
leap to think

1900
01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:44,010
yeah but what if actually this is

1901
01:16:48,859 --> 01:16:46,260
basically what's really going on in so

1902
01:16:51,169 --> 01:16:48,869
many words the phrase of course the

1903
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,179
x-files used to use was the truth is out

1904
01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:53,280
there and yeah the truth is out there

1905
01:16:58,189 --> 01:16:56,070
you have to look for it a bit some of

1906
01:17:01,340 --> 01:16:58,199
you might recall that there was a brief

1907
01:17:03,500 --> 01:17:01,350
spin-off series from the x-files called

1908
01:17:06,109 --> 01:17:03,510
the lone gunman and in one of the

1909
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:06,119
episodes of the lone gunman an aeroplane

1910
01:17:11,780 --> 01:17:09,090
is hijacked by remote control and flown

1911
01:17:13,550 --> 01:17:11,790
towards the World Trade Center million

1912
01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:13,560
months before it that actually happened

1913
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:16,080
and then of course when he did happened

1914
01:17:20,359 --> 01:17:18,690
George Bush and Coe said well we could

1915
01:17:22,609 --> 01:17:20,369
never ever mention that ever happening

1916
01:17:23,750 --> 01:17:22,619
well if they watch the telly nine months

1917
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:23,760
before they could have seen you on the

1918
01:17:29,359 --> 01:17:27,210
telly and this is the kind of ridiculous

1919
01:17:32,330 --> 01:17:29,369
statement that they put out and it makes

1920
01:17:34,669 --> 01:17:32,340
no sense sometimes I'm afraid life

1921
01:17:36,140 --> 01:17:34,679
imitates art but was somebody trying to

1922
01:17:37,090 --> 01:17:36,150
warn us of what was gonna have any

1923
01:17:39,740 --> 01:17:37,100
belief sir

1924
01:17:41,780 --> 01:17:39,750
sometimes there are limitation life I

1925
01:17:44,930 --> 01:17:41,790
sometimes think about a many black

1926
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:44,940
movies very silly movies you know the

1927
01:17:49,459 --> 01:17:47,489
men in black movies and I mean so these

1928
01:17:52,669 --> 01:17:49,469
are of course a parity of the real

1929
01:17:55,609 --> 01:17:52,679
alleged real men in black who allegedly

1930
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:55,619
this is CCTV of real many black who tend

1931
01:18:00,970 --> 01:17:57,449
to come and find you if you've seen a

1932
01:18:03,410 --> 01:18:00,980
UFO war start blabbing about aliens and

1933
01:18:06,859 --> 01:18:03,420
basically very quietly but in a very

1934
01:18:08,090 --> 01:18:06,869
sinister way tell you to shut up and if

1935
01:18:10,879 --> 01:18:08,100
you know what's good for you you

1936
01:18:12,500 --> 01:18:10,889
probably then do but it's funny isn't it

1937
01:18:15,500 --> 01:18:12,510
so in the mainstream where we treat this

1938
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:15,510
a funny joke in the movies it's much

1939
01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:18,449
easier than real life pads so they have

1940
01:18:22,490 --> 01:18:20,580
this device and they flash it at you and

1941
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:22,500
then you forget everything you saw or

1942
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:25,530
anyway but through all the kinds of

1943
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:28,290
things that we've seen this evening and

1944
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:32,159
indeed this may be it is happening in

1945
01:18:39,020 --> 01:18:35,130
real life everyday the distraction of

1946
01:18:41,850 --> 01:18:39,030
Trofeo mind-numbing money dewatering

1947
01:18:43,649 --> 01:18:41,860
madness that we are fed

1948
01:18:46,379 --> 01:18:43,659
every day go look at the magazine

1949
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:46,389
shelves and WH Smith he's the mind what

1950
01:18:51,209 --> 01:18:49,210
you don't hear about spirals in the sky

1951
01:18:53,970 --> 01:18:51,219
but you hear about Pippa Middleton's

1952
01:18:55,830 --> 01:18:53,980
bottom and people know more about that

1953
01:18:57,450 --> 01:18:55,840
then spirals in this guy you can't

1954
01:19:00,660 --> 01:18:57,460
compete with Freddie Star eating

1955
01:19:03,060 --> 01:19:00,670
hamsters and unfortunately it has just

1956
01:19:06,090 --> 01:19:03,070
enough effect to keep most people just

1957
01:19:07,919 --> 01:19:06,100
out of harm's way they haven't got the

1958
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:07,929
time anyway to do much about all this

1959
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:09,850
stuff you know they're trying to earn a

1960
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:11,770
living and raise families and it's all

1961
01:19:16,590 --> 01:19:13,570
too difficult but I'll have time to sit

1962
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:16,600
and read eat and this is the problem and

1963
01:19:21,810 --> 01:19:18,610
I think the powers that be rely on this

1964
01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:21,820
they rely on our inertia and they foster

1965
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:23,679
our inertia but we should really be

1966
01:19:27,390 --> 01:19:25,210
aware of that because this is the

1967
01:19:29,550 --> 01:19:27,400
classic conjurer's trick because all the

1968
01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:29,560
time we're all looking at that of course

1969
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:31,440
the important stuffs going on over there

1970
01:19:36,209 --> 01:19:34,690
we need to be very careful this and I

1971
01:19:38,220 --> 01:19:36,219
know many of you here the fact that

1972
01:19:39,870 --> 01:19:38,230
you'll come here and you'll talk about

1973
01:19:42,240 --> 01:19:39,880
these kinds of subjects you were already

1974
01:19:44,729 --> 01:19:42,250
to some degrees alert to this but we

1975
01:19:46,620 --> 01:19:44,739
need to help other people to wake up and

1976
01:19:49,379 --> 01:19:46,630
see what's going on even just

1977
01:19:50,939 --> 01:19:49,389
conversations in the pub the whole fake

1978
01:19:54,510 --> 01:19:50,949
news thing of course has been a

1979
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:54,520
fantastic way of muddy new orders so

1980
01:20:00,030 --> 01:19:57,610
fake news and the shock horror around

1981
01:20:01,919 --> 01:20:00,040
that is now of course being used to

1982
01:20:04,859 --> 01:20:01,929
close down perfectly legitimate

1983
01:20:07,890 --> 01:20:04,869
alternative inquiry and that is a

1984
01:20:09,899 --> 01:20:07,900
serious problem if the faint news issue

1985
01:20:11,370 --> 01:20:09,909
has been the biggest gift to the

1986
01:20:13,890 --> 01:20:11,380
authorities that they've had for years

1987
01:20:15,629 --> 01:20:13,900
because now they found a way of making

1988
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:15,639
everybody doubt anything they're told

1989
01:20:21,510 --> 01:20:18,489
well we all know fake news is deeply

1990
01:20:24,060 --> 01:20:21,520
subjective fake them the BBC is

1991
01:20:26,010 --> 01:20:24,070
basically a propaganda channel you want

1992
01:20:28,140 --> 01:20:26,020
fake news but a BBC one you see better

1993
01:20:30,090 --> 01:20:28,150
faint news there but that's not what

1994
01:20:31,770 --> 01:20:30,100
many people believe the hope perhaps

1995
01:20:35,220 --> 01:20:31,780
though is that of course increasingly

1996
01:20:36,990 --> 01:20:35,230
many people are no longer looking at ITN

1997
01:20:37,979 --> 01:20:37,000
a BBC they're using their own social

1998
01:20:39,780 --> 01:20:37,989
media feeds

1999
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:39,790
although the danger there is you get to

2000
01:20:43,649 --> 01:20:41,650
the echo chamber effect you never hear

2001
01:20:46,379 --> 01:20:43,659
anybody challenging your view which can

2002
01:20:49,010 --> 01:20:46,389
also be an issue but what's going on at

2003
01:20:52,430 --> 01:20:49,020
the moment is trying to shut people down

2004
01:20:53,930 --> 01:20:52,440
I think that is off concern let's go

2005
01:20:56,300 --> 01:20:53,940
back to unexplained mysteries for a

2006
01:20:59,420 --> 01:20:56,310
minute this is something that the years

2007
01:21:01,640 --> 01:20:59,430
was ridiculed people said you know what

2008
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:01,650
if you see a thunderstorm but from a

2009
01:21:06,020 --> 01:21:03,690
long long way away often hundreds of

2010
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:06,030
miles away and you look above the

2011
01:21:11,650 --> 01:21:09,210
thunderclaps you can see weird lightning

2012
01:21:14,510 --> 01:21:11,660
coming up coming up into space and

2013
01:21:16,850 --> 01:21:14,520
Sciences laughter these people thing is

2014
01:21:19,610 --> 01:21:16,860
they said I will drinking usual or

2015
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,620
dismiss he's seeing things well until

2016
01:21:24,590 --> 01:21:21,600
that is the space shuttle starts to film

2017
01:21:27,050 --> 01:21:24,600
them and now we call them sprites and

2018
01:21:28,820 --> 01:21:27,060
now there are a known scientific

2019
01:21:31,250 --> 01:21:28,830
phenomenon then there present about many

2020
01:21:33,710 --> 01:21:31,260
thunderstorms so that's something that's

2021
01:21:36,260 --> 01:21:33,720
now just real it's just science but they

2022
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:36,270
laugh for how long that people who claim

2023
01:21:42,860 --> 01:21:40,410
they've seen more obscurely but also I

2024
01:21:45,020 --> 01:21:42,870
think of worth in the science of fluid

2025
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:45,030
dynamics have it have been declared you

2026
01:21:50,810 --> 01:21:48,210
cannot have a hexagon in the atmosphere

2027
01:21:52,970 --> 01:21:50,820
of a planet but then they fly the

2028
01:21:55,730 --> 01:21:52,980
Cassini craft over the pole of Saturn

2029
01:21:58,250 --> 01:21:55,740
and look at that the biggies hexagons in

2030
01:22:00,320 --> 01:21:58,260
the whole of the solar system considered

2031
01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:00,330
impossible until the day they took that

2032
01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:03,600
picture so very often they are shown to

2033
01:22:08,630 --> 01:22:05,040
be wrong but of course nobody ever

2034
01:22:10,700 --> 01:22:08,640
apologizes the people that we look up to

2035
01:22:14,030 --> 01:22:10,710
is the founders of modern science like

2036
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:14,040
Copernicus and Galileo that's not how it

2037
01:22:18,050 --> 01:22:16,770
was in their day no in that day they

2038
01:22:21,170 --> 01:22:18,060
were the Mavericks they were the

2039
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:21,180
heretics believing ridiculous things

2040
01:22:25,130 --> 01:22:23,520
like maybe the earth goes round the Sun

2041
01:22:28,010 --> 01:22:25,140
rather than the other way around but

2042
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:28,020
who'd believe a well now we do believe

2043
01:22:33,650 --> 01:22:30,930
it and now that's just science but it's

2044
01:22:36,710 --> 01:22:33,660
sad that what hamda scientism has come

2045
01:22:38,690 --> 01:22:36,720
along now and that's unfortunate but it

2046
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:38,700
may well be that some of the things that

2047
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:41,130
you know we are having ridiculed today

2048
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:44,610
could be the science of tomorrow and be

2049
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:46,890
accepted as such because sometimes you

2050
01:22:53,810 --> 01:22:50,730
do get vindication yeah do you know what

2051
01:22:55,670 --> 01:22:53,820
you get it enough that I don't see how

2052
01:22:58,340 --> 01:22:55,680
the mainstream media can justify the

2053
01:22:59,660 --> 01:22:58,350
continual dismissal of people that are

2054
01:23:01,520 --> 01:22:59,670
trying to talk about mister

2055
01:23:04,340 --> 01:23:01,530
and cover-ups because they've been shown

2056
01:23:06,380 --> 01:23:04,350
to be right enough times in history that

2057
01:23:09,490 --> 01:23:06,390
is madness not to at least hear them out

2058
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:09,500
hence that's why people fear and agenda

2059
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:13,290
well soon that stuff about prophecies so

2060
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:15,090
again and again you saw in the first

2061
01:23:20,390 --> 01:23:17,370
half there's talk of these times that

2062
01:23:23,330 --> 01:23:20,400
were in now being tides of great change

2063
01:23:25,939 --> 01:23:23,340
upheaval transformation the good news is

2064
01:23:28,250 --> 01:23:25,949
some say it leads to a Golden Age of you

2065
01:23:29,930 --> 01:23:28,260
know everything being quite nice but

2066
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:29,940
it's probably going to be unsettling

2067
01:23:34,459 --> 01:23:32,370
while we can it through it so some of

2068
01:23:37,250 --> 01:23:34,469
course say wow you know it's just all in

2069
01:23:40,189 --> 01:23:37,260
the mind really but is it there might be

2070
01:23:43,250 --> 01:23:40,199
a tangible cause for these kind of

2071
01:23:46,430 --> 01:23:43,260
shifts it's been noticed in recent times

2072
01:23:49,490 --> 01:23:46,440
that the Sun has been breaking records I

2073
01:23:51,229 --> 01:23:49,500
mean over the last 35 40 years it's done

2074
01:23:53,419 --> 01:23:51,239
all kinds of things we didn't know he

2075
01:23:54,860 --> 01:23:53,429
could do although it's suddenly falling

2076
01:23:58,340 --> 01:23:54,870
very quiet in the last two or three

2077
01:24:00,320 --> 01:23:58,350
years this makes some people think that

2078
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:00,330
we're going through an unusual cycle

2079
01:24:05,300 --> 01:24:02,489
some scientists are now talking about a

2080
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:05,310
roughly 5,000 year cycle on the Sun that

2081
01:24:09,620 --> 01:24:07,650
we didn't know about too recently which

2082
01:24:11,419 --> 01:24:09,630
then would tie in reasonably well with

2083
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:11,429
those ancient prophecies and the whole

2084
01:24:19,700 --> 01:24:16,530
2012 stuff and it may well be that the

2085
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:19,710
changed electromagnetic environment that

2086
01:24:25,490 --> 01:24:22,650
this cycle creates every roughly 5,000

2087
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:25,500
years or so is changing us that it

2088
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:28,110
creates leaps in evolution because there

2089
01:24:32,660 --> 01:24:30,810
are some people like Rick Strassman and

2090
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:32,670
Michael Persinger that have done a lot

2091
01:24:36,830 --> 01:24:34,370
of experiments we're looking at how

2092
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:36,840
electromagnetic charge has changed the

2093
01:24:41,740 --> 01:24:40,050
brain that can rewire DNA and something

2094
01:24:43,700 --> 01:24:41,750
that we are now in a changed

2095
01:24:46,930 --> 01:24:43,710
electromagnetic space in our solar

2096
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:46,940
system and it's changing us and maybe

2097
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:49,530
that's why things currently feel like

2098
01:24:53,689 --> 01:24:51,210
they're suddenly very fluid there is a

2099
01:24:55,340 --> 01:24:53,699
lot of changing on me to thickness it's

2100
01:24:56,390 --> 01:24:55,350
not breaking out everywhere that you

2101
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:56,400
know you wouldn't have imagined

2102
01:25:00,770 --> 01:24:59,010
happening five years ago and maybe it's

2103
01:25:02,209 --> 01:25:00,780
just stuff that now needs to come out

2104
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:02,219
but you might get bored were reading

2105
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:05,250
about it it needs to happen and some

2106
01:25:11,129 --> 01:25:07,170
people think we are literally at the new

2107
01:25:12,689 --> 01:25:11,139
dawn of a new stage in our evolution

2108
01:25:14,959 --> 01:25:12,699
that maybe it's not happening fast

2109
01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:14,969
enough and the powers that be are

2110
01:25:21,060 --> 01:25:18,249
withholding it from us and that's why

2111
01:25:23,729 --> 01:25:21,070
there is a breakout of seemingly very

2112
01:25:26,549 --> 01:25:23,739
overt paranormal phenomena whether it be

2113
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:26,559
crop circles or UFOs or more and more

2114
01:25:30,540 --> 01:25:29,050
people reporting ghosts and discovering

2115
01:25:34,770 --> 01:25:30,550
ancient knowledge because what that's

2116
01:25:37,259 --> 01:25:34,780
doing is waking people up irrespective

2117
01:25:39,330 --> 01:25:37,269
of which path you follow most people

2118
01:25:41,939 --> 01:25:39,340
seem to find that they're being led into

2119
01:25:43,979 --> 01:25:41,949
an understanding that they've been lied

2120
01:25:46,830 --> 01:25:43,989
to number one and that there are bigger

2121
01:25:48,569 --> 01:25:46,840
things going on and yeah of course the

2122
01:25:49,589 --> 01:25:48,579
people at the tops of the pyramids don't

2123
01:25:51,689 --> 01:25:49,599
want that to happen

2124
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:51,699
it's in their interest to keep us as

2125
01:25:58,379 --> 01:25:55,570
stupid as possible and yet these somehow

2126
01:26:00,929 --> 01:25:58,389
wake people up so I'll explain mysteries

2127
01:26:03,149 --> 01:26:00,939
I think serve a purpose because it just

2128
01:26:05,359 --> 01:26:03,159
makes you think and you realize that the

2129
01:26:07,259 --> 01:26:05,369
world you're living in is perhaps being

2130
01:26:10,020 --> 01:26:07,269
misrepresented and the world of

2131
01:26:13,919 --> 01:26:10,030
communication has changed beyond belief

2132
01:26:16,469 --> 01:26:13,929
in the last 60 70 years now the truth is

2133
01:26:17,189 --> 01:26:16,479
out there you can't get to it if you

2134
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:17,199
know where to look

2135
01:26:20,969 --> 01:26:19,449
yeah there's a load across on the net

2136
01:26:23,399 --> 01:26:20,979
but there's a load of draw since myth

2137
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:23,409
since we've seen its drops in libraries

2138
01:26:27,060 --> 01:26:25,360
you need to discern any

2139
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:27,070
cross-referencing you need to use your

2140
01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:28,449
head in your heart have been a wisdom

2141
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:31,030
you can't find your way to what's going

2142
01:26:35,639 --> 01:26:34,090
on but of course that's why I think the

2143
01:26:38,159 --> 01:26:35,649
authorities around the world are now

2144
01:26:40,109 --> 01:26:38,169
terrified of the internet which was the

2145
01:26:41,609 --> 01:26:40,119
genie out of the bottle and now they're

2146
01:26:45,239 --> 01:26:41,619
trying to shut it down by saying all

2147
01:26:47,969 --> 01:26:45,249
fake news and we need to be very wary of

2148
01:26:50,279 --> 01:26:47,979
that but if you are still one of those

2149
01:26:53,370 --> 01:26:50,289
people that only get your news from the

2150
01:26:55,799 --> 01:26:53,380
mainstream sources like the BBC and you

2151
01:26:58,350 --> 01:26:55,809
know the Daily Express or whether you're

2152
01:27:00,810 --> 01:26:58,360
probably only getting a fraction of

2153
01:27:03,270 --> 01:27:00,820
what's really going on if any of it at

2154
01:27:05,399 --> 01:27:03,280
all and we've seen tonight how things

2155
01:27:07,169 --> 01:27:05,409
are just easily removed you don't hear

2156
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:07,179
about spires and the sky don't hear

2157
01:27:10,799 --> 01:27:08,530
about Philippa Langley you don't hear

2158
01:27:12,449 --> 01:27:10,809
about crop circles very often and so on

2159
01:27:14,370 --> 01:27:12,459
you can believe what you want about all

2160
01:27:15,399 --> 01:27:14,380
of these things but they are good

2161
01:27:18,189 --> 01:27:15,409
examples of

2162
01:27:20,049 --> 01:27:18,199
easily things are taken away from us and

2163
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:20,059
why we always have to be ever vigilant

2164
01:27:25,149 --> 01:27:23,449
that we it falls to those of us that

2165
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:25,159
know about this kind of thing have a

2166
01:27:30,029 --> 01:27:27,050
responsibility to put them back out

2167
01:27:32,529 --> 01:27:30,039
there wherever we can to whoever we can

2168
01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:32,539
this is how we always get shown isn't it

2169
01:27:39,009 --> 01:27:36,320
mystery researchers silly cartoon people

2170
01:27:41,709 --> 01:27:39,019
running around doing silly things well

2171
01:27:44,379 --> 01:27:41,719
yeah but sometimes as we've shown today

2172
01:27:46,719 --> 01:27:44,389
I'm in there sometimes right and the

2173
01:27:49,509 --> 01:27:46,729
right enough that this should be a

2174
01:27:51,370 --> 01:27:49,519
hearing of this stuff closing it down to

2175
01:27:55,419 --> 01:27:51,380
pretending it's not going on does not

2176
01:27:57,339 --> 01:27:55,429
serve anybody so I hope though what I've

2177
01:27:58,959 --> 01:27:57,349
done tonight is draw together a lot of

2178
01:28:02,319 --> 01:27:58,969
threads which I know some of you are

2179
01:28:04,239 --> 01:28:02,329
already familiar with but what I hope I

2180
01:28:07,629 --> 01:28:04,249
suppose above all is that they might get

2181
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:07,639
over NIH's you to risk taking this out

2182
01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:09,650
there even if it's a conversation of

2183
01:28:13,810 --> 01:28:12,169
work tomorrow or on the bus about what

2184
01:28:16,959 --> 01:28:13,820
you were doing last night what you were

2185
01:28:20,290 --> 01:28:16,969
sitting here listening to get the Cape

2186
01:28:22,330 --> 01:28:20,300
back take the ridicule that's just their

2187
01:28:24,489 --> 01:28:22,340
program to do that and you'll often find

2188
01:28:26,319 --> 01:28:24,499
actually when you show your conviction

2189
01:28:29,529 --> 01:28:26,329
and as to why you believe in something

2190
01:28:31,179 --> 01:28:29,539
people change and in the end it's funny

2191
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:31,189
they will come back with an odd kind of

2192
01:28:35,350 --> 01:28:33,530
respect even if it's just sort of

2193
01:28:37,659 --> 01:28:35,360
intrigue oh why do you believe that then

2194
01:28:39,759 --> 01:28:37,669
and the day they ask you a question

2195
01:28:42,310 --> 01:28:39,769
about it right you're onto something and

2196
01:28:43,659 --> 01:28:42,320
you tip the dominoes all the time we

2197
01:28:45,429 --> 01:28:43,669
don't say anything about what we're

2198
01:28:47,439 --> 01:28:45,439
interested in because we fear ridicule

2199
01:28:50,379 --> 01:28:47,449
with them falling into the control

2200
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:50,389
agenda oh we mustn't do that we can't do

2201
01:28:55,449 --> 01:28:52,489
that especially now though freedom of

2202
01:28:56,949 --> 01:28:55,459
speech is under such danger for some of

2203
01:28:59,799 --> 01:28:56,959
the reasons we've covered here and of

2204
01:29:00,339 --> 01:28:59,809
course many others so I hope that's been

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01:29:02,770 --> 01:29:00,349
of some use

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01:29:04,569 --> 01:29:02,780
thank you very much coming out have a

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01:29:06,549 --> 01:29:04,579
look at the table take a leaflet if you